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10-19-2019, 09:32 PM | #1 |
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Having a really hard time figuring this out since on the v1 Ice Storm figure, he's listed as a Cold-Water Marine Combat and Survival Specialist, yet on the ret-conned v2 convention version, he's a former Coast Guard that transferred to the Navy (which I didn't know was a thing you could do). Any thoughts?
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10-19-2019, 09:41 PM | #2 |
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"Marine" Combat could refer to sea/ocean/water. And yes, you can transfer from one branch of service to the other, and Navy does transfer to the Coasties, and vice versa
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10-20-2019, 12:18 AM | #3 |
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My thoughts are that Ice Storm has become a mess, but I’m not sure if the GIJCC or Hasbro is to blame (or both).
Sgt. MacPhee, Nolan A. (Ice Storm) is a USMC Sergeant, trained in Cold-Water Marine Combat and Survival. Marines really do get to attend a Cold-Weather Operations Course that teaches that, so his rather limited file card could be accurate. PO3 Ligotke, Nolan M. (Ice Storm) was a “Coastie” who upon completion transferred to the Navy via the Interservice Transfer program. The Navy trained and assigned him to work with a visit, board, search, and seizure (VBSS) unit, but he could have done that in either the USMC (FAST) or the USCG if he wanted to without changing his branch of service. So why did he wait to his End of Active Service (EAS) to go before the screening panel for a limited prior service spot in the Navy? He must have had a good reason. The accessories which the convention version of the Ice Storm action figure comes with leads me to believe that he received medical training in the Navy. As a Marine, he would have to complete a transfer to the Navy to be eligible for that schooling. If he were in the Coast Guard, he could compete for a very limited seat to train as a Coast Guard health services technician (HS), but his chances would be much better if he transferred into the Navy. My theory is also based on the patch on his USS Flagg coat. Do you see the Calico Jack on the black rectangle? That indicates he served with a Navy Seal Team post 9-11 in the Middle East. That means Petty Officer Ligotke is probably a Hospital Corpsman Third Class who transferred from the Naval Special Warfare community to the G.I. Joe team and is now stationed on the USS Flagg. The GIJCC mentioned at the 2014 convention that someone at Hasbro directed them to include Ice Storm with the convention set as a souvenir, so maybe it had to do with somebody named Ligotke serving in the Navy. Why else would they change the name, rank, and service branch?
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12-09-2019, 07:13 PM | #4 |
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I had no idea about all of this. The last file card I remembered had Ice Storm as a Coastie.
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