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View Poll Results: Who is the Ultimate FSS? - 10th Figure | |||
1.0: Nano BAT | 2 | 3.45% | |
2.0: Keel-Haul | 26 | 44.83% | |
3.0: Night Creeper Leader | 1 | 1.72% | |
4.0: Interrogator | 11 | 18.97% | |
5.0: Xamot | 2 | 3.45% | |
6.0: WORMS Officer | 1 | 1.72% | |
7.0: Crystal Ball | 8 | 13.79% | |
8.0: Munitia | 5 | 8.62% | |
Final 12: TF Tunnel Rat | 2 | 3.45% | |
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05-12-2019, 12:15 AM | #41 |
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Still surprised to see Crystal Ball lose, let alone monkey arms win... *shrugs*
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05-12-2019, 02:46 AM | #42 |
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TF Tunnel Rat received 6 mentions as Worst and 2 votes as Best
NC Leader received only 3 mentions as Worst. NC Leader also got 2 mentions by people saying they actively Like the figure, plus 1 vote for it as Best. Crystal Ball received one mention as Worst but 8 votes for Best. NanoBAT received one mention as Worst (plus a couple other mentions of it being as bad as TF Tunnel Rat but not clearly stating it as Worst), but 2 votes for Best. TF Tunnel Rat seems objectively the least liked figure, therefore the Worst of this round. #ididthemath |
05-12-2019, 08:58 AM | #43 |
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Quote:
TF Tunnel Rat received 6 mentions as Worst and 2 votes as Best
NC Leader received only 3 mentions as Worst. NC Leader also got 2 mentions by people saying they actively Like the figure, plus 1 vote for it as Best. Crystal Ball received one mention as Worst but 8 votes for Best. NanoBAT received one mention as Worst (plus a couple other mentions of it being as bad as TF Tunnel Rat but not clearly stating it as Worst), but 2 votes for Best. TF Tunnel Rat seems objectively the least liked figure, therefore the Worst of this round. #ididthemath
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05-12-2019, 09:51 AM | #44 |
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Wait, are we supposed to nominate best of the worst in each thread? I must've missed the memo :/
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05-12-2019, 10:06 AM | #45 |
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Yes. Just post who you think is the worst figure. The figure with the least number of votes, and the most worst posts will be the best of the worst.
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05-12-2019, 11:00 AM | #46 |
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But in the case where one figure has twice as many direct nominations for being the Worst figure vs any another figure, that will be ignored if one more person voted for it in the Best category even though it didn't win that category. It's not easy to explain why that's technically not correct from a polling standpoint but I will give it another shot.
One cannot attempt to derive two separate concepts from one basic vote. There are two separate polls being taken in each thread, which would be two separate questions if the forum software could support that. There is a vote to determine the Best. That is all that vote can do. And there is a vote to determine the Worst, which has to be done by write-in nominations because the forum's poll option limits to one question. In the Best vote, NCL wound up being tied with WORMS Officer as the least voted for in that category. It doesn't mean they are Worst, it just means they aren't Best. In the Worst vote, which is done by write-ins since only one actual poll question is allowed per thread, TF Tunnel Rat won with twice as many nominations as the next nearest option. The proof that this is the correct way to interpret this is that, had we had the ability to provide two poll questions, one to select Best and one to select Worst, the write-in nominations are the replacement for the votes we'd cast for the Worst. Quote:
Everything you posted was correct. The thing is that more people felt TF TR was the best figure. Therefore it cannot be the [...] Worst.
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05-12-2019, 11:04 AM | #47 |
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Also the term "Best of the Worst" makes no sense.
If you mean the "Least Voted For of the Best", then it's a tie between WORMS and NCL, but it's also a meaningless category, as we are unable to express how we feel about each of the nine options presented. We can only vote for one as Best, so that is all the poll is telling us. There is no ability to stack-rank each of the options on a list of 1-9, which would be the proper way to establish both Best and Worst with one poll question. So it's not correct to say the least votes is the Worst, it's just not the Best. There's no valid way to claim either of those figures (NCL or WORMS) are "Worst" anything without a way for respondents to indicate that they actively think and intend it to be the Worst. (Which is why we have the nomination in comment method to establish Worst since we can't add a second poll question to identify Worst nor can we stack-rank the nine options, which would be the two methods to legitimately establish Worst.) If we try to claim the lowest votes in a single-vote Best poll equates with Worst, then it's telling the voting population they shouldn't actually vote for which figure they liked Best, they should save their vote to use to save a figure that is not truly Worst from being at the bottom, because that is going to be misinterpreted as being evidence it's the Worst. It's quite fine that a couple people may vote for a figure as the Best when most people also nominate it for the Worst, which is what makes it indeed the Worst of the list. It didn't win Best, and it's actually the Worst by popular nomination. It's two separate things. Last edited by edgecrusher; 05-12-2019 at 11:06 AM.. |
05-12-2019, 10:13 PM | #48 |
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Maybe we could just have a second poll for each slot where we specifically vote on who we think is the "worst" of that slot? I do feel "best of the worst" is not entirely self-explanatory. Having a "worst" vote would eliminate some of that ambiguity.
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05-13-2019, 12:15 AM | #49 |
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I agree guys. I think there should be an "FSS Fail" poll. There was a request during the 2nd week of this poll, to find out who the worst figures are. Given that this was a "Best of" poll, I came up with the Best of the Worst to determine which figure is terrible within the confines of this poll. I'm fine if anyone wants to make an "FSS Fail" poll. We can call the "winners" of that poll the official "Worst" of the FSS. The "Best of the Worst" list above can be thrown out as "unofficial" then. I plan to list the Best of the Worst figures for the last 3 polls, just to complete the lists. Thanks for the discussion everyone!!!
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