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10-01-2017, 05:28 AM | #31 |
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The Rattler to me isn't much like an A-10 as there is the PTE A-10 for that, rather it is mash up of conventions that produces something more of a true fighter/bomber that Destro declares it to be on its introduction in ARAH. It's VTOL, is faster than the A-10, accelerates better, climbs better, and fights better. I made a VTOL model of the Rattler in SimplePlanes and to make it work it had to be slightly pitch-unstable, which would require fly-by-wire tech as it's almost impossible to fly as-is. After hours of trying I managed to get from vertical take-off to level flight maybe once without ending up as an upside-down ball of fire on the ground. My model of the Rattler was also a terrible gun platform given its center of gravity was so close to its center of lift that a slight adjustment to the elevator would cause the nose to bob up and down for a few seconds. FBW would also have to be implemented to remedy this.
On the other hand, I do not believe its Gun to the the equivalent of the GAU-8, nor do I think its anywhere near as rugged as the Thunderbolt. In the real world, it is nonsensical. However in a world where you can be ambushed in the sky by a guy and his dog in a hang glider, a small caliber, fast firing defensive weapon can make sense, even if it cannot fire to the rear.
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10-01-2017, 09:34 PM | #32 |
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I think the thinking on the HISS in this thread is right on. It's definatley a fast and lightly armored vehicle, more akin to an IFV than an MBT. The limited depression of the guns when firing in the forward position can't be too huge of a weakness... it probably about the same on any vehicle with a long hull and a center mounted turret, like the Stryker, Type 92, OT-64, etc.
I don't think the guns would be capable of handling any high velocity rounds, however, given the extremely small and short breach. It would probably have to be something low pressure like the 73mm gun on the BMP. That was basically a turret mounted recoilless rifle/RPG type weapon, so sabot rounds are out, but HE/HEAT/HESH rounds are still a possibility. It needs a coax machine gun though. If I had to design a HISS tank out of the available elements, I'd probably use the hull/tracks of the POC version and the turret of the Retaliation HISS, swapping the side guns for a box ATGM launcher on at least one side.
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10-11-2017, 03:28 PM | #33 |
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The Modern HISS V improves mobility, protection and survivability but lacks the raw firepower of the medium-barreled 90mm guns on the original.
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Its situational awareness comes more from electronics and optics then POV and eyeballs, making it more suitable for all-weather and night time operations. Its canon and mortar are designed to destroy soft-targets and fortifications and are not considered effective against armor and aircraft. Its more of a pure counter-insurgency weapon.
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01-22-2018, 12:58 AM | #34 |
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I agree with this logic concerning the HISS. I've always considered it more a IFV rather than an MBT. In a way, it reminds me of Command & Conquer, and how the GDI used Abrams tanks as their MBT, and NOD used Bradley IFVs. It makes sense for a terrorist organization that doesn't have the funding and capacity of the U.S./U.N. to reply on cheaper and faster weaponry. Heck, this is why I once customized a BBi LAV as a HISS. I've never looked at the conflicts between GIJoe and Cobra as large scale battles like were seen in WWII, but rather small scale raids and skirmishes.
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01-25-2018, 11:43 PM | #35 |
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Jumping on the Hiss conversation - To me it's a lightweight anti-personnel vehicle that can skirmish with other light armor but stand no chance against a main battle tank. They are economical and easy to produce/replace and effective at what they were designed to do which is why they are the backbone of the Cobra's mechanized forces. I don't really think the design is all that bad either since the tank is a High Speed Sentry and it allows the driver to get a 180 degree view (just pretend the glass canopy is bulletproof )
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01-26-2018, 03:07 AM | #36 |
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I disagree. The weapons on the HiSS V are more realistic in their appearance and function. We really cannot judge the effectiveness of the sci-fi weapons equipping the earlier HiSS tanks.
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01-26-2018, 11:22 AM | #37 |
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Jumping on the Hiss conversation - To me it's a lightweight anti-personnel vehicle that can skirmish with other light armor but stand no chance against a main battle tank. They are economical and easy to produce/replace and effective at what they were designed to do which is why they are the backbone of the Cobra's mechanized forces. I don't really think the design is all that bad either since the tank is a High Speed Sentry and it allows the driver to get a 180 degree view (just pretend the glass canopy is bulletproof )
I think it is more a matter of logistics and mission profile for Cobra. A MBT like the Abrams is a huge logistical burden in terms of fueling, transport and support. It requires a C-5 Galaxy to transport just one M-1 Abrams by air. The HiSS is just that: a High Speed Sentry - it is designed to provide perimeter defense of hidden Cobra bases. They are small - making them easy to covertly transport to a clandestine site and store out of sight until needed. I disagree that it cannot stand up to a tank. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Bradley fighting vehicles killed far more tanks than the Abrams. It may not have heavy armor, but the HiSS has its elevating undercarriage that allows it to pop up from behind cover to launch its attack and then pop back down again. When I first saw the HiSS Mk.V I was really impressed by it (still am, too). It is an amazingly well thought out vehicle that has a very sci-fi appearance yet is a very practical design. It is like a helicopter gunship on treads. Whoever designed that thing was a freaking genius! I wish he designed more vehicles for GI Joe. |
01-26-2018, 01:59 PM | #38 |
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01-26-2018, 02:35 PM | #39 |
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I think the 2T Stalker is pretty close to the HiSS tank in function:
2T Stalker Armored Reconnaissance Vehicle | Military-Today.com The Wiesel would make pretty good HiSS Scout though. Last edited by IC3 VIP3R; 02-06-2018 at 09:10 AM.. |
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