G.I. Joe Leadership Team (Senior Ranking Officer) G.I. Joe 25th Anniversary

Twnbrother · 01-26-2008, 03:34 PM

Does anyone know if grunt has a backpack? Also, I do not see the stands... I hope they are included. IMO Grunt looks aweful, but he was my first Joe to get as a child... so I will be getting this set. Also, shouldn't Grunt come with an M16 and not the M203?

Twnbrother · 01-26-2008, 03:41 PM

Hasbro,

Please fix the upcoming Grunt. The arms are aweful, use the same ones from Snake Eyes. Grunt never needed to shave, make him clean cut. Also, Grunt came with an M-16, not the M203. The Duke from the upcoming comic pack with the October Guard looks more like Grunt

slim19722 · 01-26-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Echo7Solo

See that makes little sense to me because Duke's rank makes him Sr enlisted but he is second in command of the Joe team. Plus if that were the case then the Cobra pack should be Cobra Commander, Crimson Guard and Cobra soldier. Right? Then we wouldn't end up with a Red CC and that crappy CGO. Besides it is listed as "GI JOE Leadership Team" Not Evolution.

Ranks are different in GI Joe. Duke is second in command, but Ace is a higher rank than him. I didn't say it was "Evolution". I said that's what Hasbro called these sets when they first annonced them and since the "Evolution" name is already used in the Star Wars line, they had to call the packs something else. Like,"GI Joe Leadership Team". And the Cobra set is a Crimson Set, which make sense. Crimson Trooper, Crimson Officer, and Crimson Leader(CC in Red).

Echo7Solo · 01-26-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by slim19722

I didn't say it was "Evolution". I said that's what Hasbro called these sets when they first annonced them and since the "Evolution" name is already used in the Star Wars line, they had to call the packs something else. Like,"GI Joe Leadership Team".

Right I understand that but your point is this is the rank evolution set that Hasbro announced correct? It makes sense the way you put it in real world military but in GI Joe it does't. Plus the package name is "GI Joe Leadership Team"

Gentleman · 01-26-2008, 03:58 PM

Peg Warmer.

Echo7Solo · 01-26-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Twnbrother

Hasbro,

Please fix the upcoming Grunt. The arms are aweful, use the same ones from Snake Eyes. Grunt never needed to shave, make him clean cut. Also, Grunt came with an M-16, not the M203. The Duke from the upcoming comic pack with the October Guard looks more like Grunt

you can fix it yourself with a Flash head and any web gear. Just put both of them on the Duke from the October Guard two pack, paint Flash's hair and there you go

slim19722 · 01-26-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Echo7Solo

Right I understand that but your point is this is the rank evolution set that Hasbro announced correct? It makes sense the way you put it in real world military but in GI Joe it does't. Plus the package name is "GI Joe Leadership Team"

GI Joe doesn't follow traditional military practices. Look in DD Comic's Data Handbook which has the GI Joe rank structure. GI Joe command structure is seperate from the normal military rank structure and they have both structures listed. Duke is second in command, but their are plenty of others who out rank him, Flint, Ace, Lt. Falcon, Admiral Keel Haul...

Echo7Solo · 01-26-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slim19722

GI Joe doesn't follow traditional military practices. Look in DD Comic's Data Handbook which has the GI Joe rank structure. GI Joe command structure is seperate from the normal military rank structure and they have both structures listed. Duke is second in command, but their are plenty of others who out rank him, Flint, Ace, Lt. Falcon, Admiral Keel Haul...

my point exactly. This is a "leadership team" of "senior ranking officers" and you have the number 1 and two in command with (by everything I've seen) close to the bottom of the line. This makes no sense at all with the name given. It makes little sense as an evolution type set.

slim19722 · 01-26-2008, 05:08 PM

Exactly "team leaders" in the early years. Hawk is just a Colonel and after that all the other Joes are lower enlisted (Grunt). Then Duke comes, a Senior Enlisted soldier. So you have a Lower Enlisted(Grunt) Senior Enlisted(Duke) and then Hawk, a 'evolution' of the teams leaders. Makes perfect sense. The military has 3 levels of rank, Lower Enlisted, NCO, and Officer and they're all represented in the set.

PREACHER007 · 01-26-2008, 05:46 PM

i'm just thankful that we got a grunt.he was pretty plain as a kid,but the comics really told his story wonderfully detailed.

i have been wanting the original 13 since this line started.now the fans are one step closer.

God Bless,
JC

01-26-2008, 03:48 PM	#23
slim19722 Crimson Guard Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 3,909	Quote: Originally Posted by Echo7Solo See that makes little sense to me because Duke's rank makes him Sr enlisted but he is second in command of the Joe team. Plus if that were the case then the Cobra pack should be Cobra Commander, Crimson Guard and Cobra soldier. Right? Then we wouldn't end up with a Red CC and that crappy CGO. Besides it is listed as "GI JOE Leadership Team" Not Evolution. Ranks are different in GI Joe. Duke is second in command, but Ace is a higher rank than him. I didn't say it was "Evolution". I said that's what Hasbro called these sets when they first annonced them and since the "Evolution" name is already used in the Star Wars line, they had to call the packs something else. Like,"GI Joe Leadership Team". And the Cobra set is a Crimson Set, which make sense. Crimson Trooper, Crimson Officer, and Crimson Leader(CC in Red). Last edited by slim19722; 01-26-2008 at 03:53 PM..

01-26-2008, 03:56 PM	#24
Echo7Solo Agent Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 15,321	Quote: Originally Posted by slim19722 I didn't say it was "Evolution". I said that's what Hasbro called these sets when they first annonced them and since the "Evolution" name is already used in the Star Wars line, they had to call the packs something else. Like,"GI Joe Leadership Team". Right I understand that but your point is this is the rank evolution set that Hasbro announced correct? It makes sense the way you put it in real world military but in GI Joe it does't. Plus the package name is "GI Joe Leadership Team" __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Headman This is like asking for Transformers and getting Gobots. It's fine and all, just not what I was hoping for.

01-26-2008, 03:58 PM	#25
Gentleman The Grey Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 606	Peg Warmer. __________________

01-26-2008, 04:16 PM	#26
Echo7Solo Agent Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 15,321	Quote: Originally Posted by Twnbrother Hasbro, Please fix the upcoming Grunt. The arms are aweful, use the same ones from Snake Eyes. Grunt never needed to shave, make him clean cut. Also, Grunt came with an M-16, not the M203. The Duke from the upcoming comic pack with the October Guard looks more like Grunt you can fix it yourself with a Flash head and any web gear. Just put both of them on the Duke from the October Guard two pack, paint Flash's hair and there you go __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Headman This is like asking for Transformers and getting Gobots. It's fine and all, just not what I was hoping for.

01-26-2008, 04:55 PM	#28
Echo7Solo Agent Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 15,321	Quote: Originally Posted by slim19722 GI Joe doesn't follow traditional military practices. Look in DD Comic's Data Handbook which has the GI Joe rank structure. GI Joe command structure is seperate from the normal military rank structure and they have both structures listed. Duke is second in command, but their are plenty of others who out rank him, Flint, Ace, Lt. Falcon, Admiral Keel Haul... my point exactly. This is a "leadership team" of "senior ranking officers" and you have the number 1 and two in command with (by everything I've seen) close to the bottom of the line. This makes no sense at all with the name given. It makes little sense as an evolution type set. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Headman This is like asking for Transformers and getting Gobots. It's fine and all, just not what I was hoping for.