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08-27-2015, 07:17 PM | #1 |
Cobra Viper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North Texas
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Hey Mods, I'm sorry if this isn't the best place to post this thread, feel free to move it.
Anyway, Since I have somewhere on the order of 300+ MTF guys, I've sold a few so far just to make room for my BFS shipment later this year. I've seen mention on a few posts about the MTF knees being stiff. A tanker who just bought some from me asked about the knee stiffness. I apologize if someone else has already explained this, but I figured I'd make a post about it for the time being. With a blow dryer and a screwdriver I disassembled one of the MTF lower legs. The pictures are below. As you can see, on both the upper and lower portion of the knee joint,(middle photo) there is a small bump. While the last picture doesn't show it well, there happens to be a corresponding groove inside the thigh and calf portion of the leg where that bump fits into. The resistance felt when trying to initiate a bend of the knee is that bump being dragged out of its groove. It looks like there are a couple grooves in both the upper and lower leg. Why this design feature? At first I was worried I was going to break an MTF leg every time I bent it! After discovering this feature I am less concerned. I believe the bump/groove is to prevent the knee joint from becoming loose over time. What a genius feature! While the groove/bump feature would put some stress on the pin that goes across the joint, it feels like the pin is pretty stiff plastic, and the knee joint piece itself is kind of soft, so I doubt there is any risk of breaking the knee from bending it with abandon. Anyway for anyone wondering about those stiff knees, here's an explanation! I'm curious if it was MJ or BFS who came up with that design feature, because I think it is a great one! Last edited by harv94; 02-22-2017 at 11:42 AM.. |
08-27-2015, 07:31 PM | #2 |
Crimson Guard
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United States
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Hasbro has done and does the same thing - take apart some knees and you will notice it there as well.
Whether they originated the idea or not I couldn't say - for all I know Marx figures in the 70's did the same thing. And actually I held a Marx cowboy figure for the first time a few months ago and surprisingly those are constructed more like modern Star Wars figures - the plastic, the joints everything on them is amazing. I had no idea but toy construction I think was fairly advanced long ago and apparently dropped before recently increasing again in the smaller scales.
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08-27-2015, 08:02 PM | #3 |
Cobra Viper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North Texas
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You are correct. However it seems the groove/bump on the MTF figure knees is a bit more prominent than on the joes. Several of the posts in the MTF threads here and on Facebook mentioned concerns about the knee joint breaking or being very stiff. I thought I'd show an explanation. I also wonder if MJ made that interface in the knee joint a bit more snug on purpose or if it just came out that way. Peace
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08-27-2015, 09:18 PM | #4 |
Man of Steel Brigade
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 102
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I think I may be the tanker in question...so thanks for showing this.
I managed to see the bump on mine after a dunk in some hot water but I didn't realize what it was until you pointed it out. I finally managed to free the knees on one figure and now it's extremely smooth when being manipulated. I'm not concerned with breakage but it's nice to know what's causing the stiffness, although I wonder if it would even be an issue if the plastic in the knees was a little stronger. |
09-06-2015, 09:50 PM | #5 |
just a Marine
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: central PA
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Quote:
Hasbro has done and does the same thing - take apart some knees and you will notice it there as well.
Whether they originated the idea or not I couldn't say - for all I know Marx figures in the 70's did the same thing. And actually I held a Marx cowboy figure for the first time a few months ago and surprisingly those are constructed more like modern Star Wars figures - the plastic, the joints everything on them is amazing. I had no idea but toy construction I think was fairly advanced long ago and apparently dropped before recently increasing again in the smaller scales. |
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