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07-31-2014, 04:48 PM | #21 |
Crimson Guard
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LOL SON YOU CRAZY!!! I'm going to make this short and sweet, quality products had all the backing in the world. 25th, POC, and 30th. The shitty brand management killed the company (terrible movie/movie toyline distributed in quantities that sere absurd followed by a cluster f$&@ of a follow up release date of the second crappy film/poor release of figures ending with a handful of great figures no one could purchase in the wild...) Hasbro killed this line with a network called the HUB that few families/children could watch instead of releasing a great joe cartoon to a platform that was accessible called nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. People needed to have their asses fired in that marketing department.
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07-31-2014, 04:55 PM | #22 |
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LOL SON YOU CRAZY!!! I'm going to make this short and sweet, quality products had all the backing in the world. 25th, POC, and 30th. The shitty brand management killed the company (terrible movie/movie toyline distributed in quantities that sere absurd followed by a cluster f$&@ of a follow up release date of the second crappy film/poor release of figures ending with a handful of great figures no one could purchase in the wild...) Hasbro killed this line with a network called the HUB that few families/children could watch instead of releasing a great joe cartoon to a platform that was accessible called nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. People needed to have their asses fired in that marketing department.
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07-31-2014, 05:11 PM | #23 |
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LOL SON YOU CRAZY!!! I'm going to make this short and sweet, quality products had all the backing in the world. 25th, POC, and 30th. The shitty brand management killed the company (terrible movie/movie toyline distributed in quantities that sere absurd followed by a cluster f$&@ of a follow up release date of the second crappy film/poor release of figures ending with a handful of great figures no one could purchase in the wild...) Hasbro killed this line with a network called the HUB that few families/children could watch instead of releasing a great joe cartoon to a platform that was accessible called nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. People needed to have their asses fired in that marketing department.
Hasbro has been a deplorable toy company for the better part of this decade. It's a shame a small company can't get the rights to Joes. |
07-31-2014, 05:17 PM | #24 |
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It's funny how some folks think a company should just throw money at a brand despite it not performing well in recent years, even when they HAVE thrown money at it, all so a bunch of thirtysomething folks on the internet can be happy, except that even then they wouldn't be. ("They remade Character X instead of Dayglo-Viper! DAMN YOU HASBLOW!!!!!11!").
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07-31-2014, 05:20 PM | #25 |
Spiraling Out
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Toy collectors can complain all they want, but it won't change a thing. None of us work for the brand, and the only way we can support it is by buying it, and let's face it, there are fewer of us with less cash on hand every year. There is nothing at 1/18 scale coming for a couple of years after this 50th anniversary stuff. We'll be lucky if there's anything for collectors at all when the movie comes out, if and when it comes out. It's not even on the production schedule right now. Have you seen the latest offerings from the rest of Hasbro's movie lines with less articulation and fewer/sloppier paint apps? That's the future for the line. The future for highly articulated gaming figures for adult collectors seems to wholly online at this point, as evidenced by the recent success of the Marauder and Boss Fight Kickstarters. I'm sure it won't be just programs like that from here on out, but it's going to be very similar - just evolved. Third party companies are going to have to come in to give you what you want, just like what has happened with the Transformers. If you want a Devastator like the G1 version, you have to pay more than a hundred bucks to get it from a small Chinese company who can handle tiny production runs. That's the future here too. The sooner people accept this and move on with their lives, the better for them. I can't believe the foaming at the mouth that occurs on online forums sometimes when it comes to TOYS. Perspective, man - some perspective is in order. Besides, what more is there for them to make? Do we continue to bitch because there's no "Ultimate Mutt and Junkyard" or do we simply enjoy what we're fortunate enough to have? I mean really, if, even as an adult in this world, you have the disposable income to spend on toys, you're pretty damn fortunate. If you have the display space and the time to stand with your hands on your hips and then look at all of those toys, then you really don't have a damnable thing to complain about. And you know what else? I'm upset about it too. I'd buy any damn thing on it with "GI Joe" on the package, as long as it displayed some slavish devotion to my desire for the comfortable nostalgia of my childhood. Hell, if I had the dough, I'd chase down all of those Sideshow Joes, and I'd even get those Gentle Giant throwbacks on the horizon if I could, but the fact is, the amount of income I have to throw at those things does not equal the production costs, and I'm not the only fan of the brand in that boat. That's what it all comes down to. Money. Just money. If Hasbro can't get their money out of the brand to satisfy the shareholders, then the brand will be allowed to wither and die, like so many toy brands of the past. There are not enough people interested in the brand anymore, and without that interest, there will be little investment into the brand to grow it. A bunch of "fans" who wait until a toy (Rattler, Eaglehawk, Skystriker, Target Battle Pack, The ROC Pit) goes on clearance at a price that cannot pay back its own production costs are not going to save a brand. Capitalism is a serpent that eats its own tail, my friends, and that tail is made up of things that people like but don't make any money for the property holder. With all that being said... I need to stop clicking on threads like this... :-(
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07-31-2014, 09:44 PM | #26 |
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07-31-2014, 11:42 PM | #27 |
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The Lady Jaye vs. Baroness 2-Pack and the Snowjob vs. B.A.T. 2-Pack are the only things that we may get at the moment. Hopefully they will surprise us and release a Gung-Ho & Storm Shadow ('87 Joe Version) 2-Pack as well as that would give us most of if not all of the Concept Vault 2.0 figures.
This Holiday season may give us the following: 1. Lady Jaye vs. Baroness 2-Pack 2. Snowjob vs. B.A.T. 2-Pack 3. Gung-Ho & Storm Shadow ('87 Joe Version) 2-Pack [-Wishful Thinking] |
08-01-2014, 08:24 AM | #28 |
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I expect there to be some more stuff around the holidays but for now. We got a wave of stuff and an SDCC exclusive to tide us over til FSS 3.0
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08-01-2014, 08:29 AM | #29 |
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Hey, I am offended. Red heads are not all stepchildren. LOL
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08-01-2014, 11:28 AM | #30 |
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Well, to be honest, Hasbro killed the Clone Wars line. Their lack of vision when it came to new product was deplorable, even with Clone Wars having another season and a half. I understand this is something they had to do with the Disney buy out, but it wasn't becasue there wasn't a demand for the product.
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Whomever is responsible for the Joe brand has done a piss poor job keeping it alive. There's never any continuity. They went from ROC, to something totally unrelated in POC toy line, to resolute/Renegades. I think after the movie, they need to end the movie stuff.
Nevermind that Transformers has proven conclusively that you don't need "one set continuity" to be successful. They've had over a half-dozen continuities in the last 10 years alone. Quote:
LOL SON YOU CRAZY!!! I'm going to make this short and sweet, quality products had all the backing in the world. 25th, POC, and 30th. The shitty brand management killed the company (terrible movie/movie toyline distributed in quantities that sere absurd followed by a cluster f$&@ of a follow up release date of the second crappy film/poor release of figures ending with a handful of great figures no one could purchase in the wild...) Hasbro killed this line with a network called the HUB that few families/children could watch instead of releasing a great joe cartoon to a platform that was accessible called nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. People needed to have their asses fired in that marketing department.
Did you expect Hasbro NOT to make movie toys and sell them to retailers? Did you think Hasbro decided to delay the movie? (They did not, Paramount did). Nevermind that RoC toys were, in terms of quality, superior in nearly every way to the 25th anniversary product that preceded them. Of course, many collectors don't seem to understand that "quality" is not inherently linked to "character selection." Arctic Destro is a fine quality toy...he just wasn't a popular figure. Once again...how is it that so many collectors seem completely ignorant of the fact that Hasbro is NOT some all-powerful organization that can FORCE Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon to play their new cartoon show, or FORCE retailers to stock exactly the product they want to make whenever they want to sell it to them? THAT ISN'T HOW IT WORKS PEOPLE. Last edited by Jmacq1; 08-01-2014 at 11:31 AM.. |
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