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GI Joe 25th will increase in value over the long haul. | 70 | 17.28% | |
GI Joe 25th will never be worth as much as vintage ARAH. | 142 | 35.06% | |
It is not about the cash value but the personal value. | 193 | 47.65% | |
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09-28-2011, 10:31 PM | #261 |
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I whole heartly agree with this.
There are far to many made and horded for it to even begin to ever be worth anything. 10 years from now the 25th stuff will be sold for a third of the retail price paid. I collect them because i like them alot, and love looking at them, its not about the vaule of where it will be in the future. I have alot carded, but most are loose on a shelf. |
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09-28-2011, 10:31 PM | #262 |
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I love to open them and set them up, keeping them on the card is a waste.
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09-28-2011, 11:39 PM | #263 |
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09-28-2011, 11:43 PM | #264 |
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I also have one set carded and one set opened. For me, having them on cards is me bringing back my childhood memories of walking in to a store and looking at some of the figures I wanted and couldn't afford.
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09-29-2011, 12:12 AM | #265 |
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I had a conversation yesterday with several other GI Joe collectors and we all seemed to agree on something that I wanted to share here. I hope this can open up some dialog because I would love to hear what you believe. This is just my opinion and like they say, we all have one. So read mine and share your own.
Do any of you remember the Star Wars Power of the force collection? You know the stuff from the 90’s that came out, which today can be picked up still on card for pennies on the dollar. I saw a few weeks back in a box on a guys table at a flee market being sold for $1.00 per figure still on the card. Well I see the current 25th Joe line going the same way. In 25 years there will still be a huge amount of 25th on cards and in boxes sitting around in storage. There will also be a huge amount of mint opened figures too. There are just so many of us who are getting AFA graded figures, sealing and storing them ourselves or army building them. The 25th stuff will not have a chance to become rare since so many of us are keeping them in pristine condition. I have several friends who bought up every Power of the Force figure they could find. They stored them in mint condition and have kept them safe, yet now they can barely get their money back on many of them. There are a few rare cases where they have made a profit but over all they are saddened by the glut of Star Wars Power or the Force items out there. The reason why the ARAH stuff is so highly priced is our parents threw them out, sold them in yard sells or we played with them ourselves so much they just fell apart. Now that we have grown and gotten jobs of our own, we are buying back pieces of the childhood we had. So I hope some of you are not banking on the future resale value of these guys. There is going to be way too much around for the value to increase in such a way that you will get rich off them. The value of the 25th line should be measured in how happy it makes you feel or how many wonderful childhood memories they remind you of. These are toys and are meant to bring joy and happiness. Any monetary value is just an added bonus Many of us need to take a lesson from the 90’s and remember the crash of the Comic book market, the crash of the Sports card market, the crash of the Collectable Gaming card market, the crash of the Beanie Baby market, or all the other crashes of value that came from the shear volume of products that people picked up like everyone else and stored away. The 25th line will be around for a long time even if Hasbro stops the line. Lines I've invested in for retirement purposes: 0 Lines I've bought out of personal commitment and interest: 12's Lines that have matured as though they're a stock: 2 (excluding actual vintage collections) -Commemorative He-Man -He-Man 200k It's not monolithic to mention the Star Wars lines from the 90's. The majority of toy lines from the 90s that were reboots or expansions can be bought for pennies on the dollar. The Playmates Star Trek line is another example. Original lines -which for the sake of this conversation as specified- are considered "vintage" and are another category, entirely. Thundercats and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are fetching a premium these days, but that is because there is a whole new crop of collectors sprouting up. Toy collectors are a subgroup, but "subgroup" or subculture doesn't mean what it once did. As with every subculture it has expanded to include a lot more people than the classically applied term once did. It's all about age. When you were a kid, Star Wars figures were contemporary. When I was a kid Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were contemporary. I'll pay more for one than I will for the other since I didn't have a childhood connection to one of them. Who's to say that the 90s SW figures will always be worth nothing? I have at least 5 Power of the Force figures that have a pennies on the dollar clearance sticker on them from the mid-80s. But, I guess your real question is the secondary, collector/scalper market that has sprung up around toy lines. Bottom line: No one saved the POTF carded figures. Everyone has the 25th Joe line. Planning for the future, like Mattel has with their poor distribution of the commeorative line and 200K line, and even the handling of the Classics line, of the He-Man franchise is foresight in planning for the success of the line. The problem comes when they start re-issuing every figure over and over and over again. (Slight changes in color do not matter -especially 10 or 20 years from now) |
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09-29-2011, 01:17 AM | #266 |
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IMO another example would be the Nascar Diecast collectible industry... man... the market for those things just nosed dived straight off a cliff in only a couple of years. In the early 2000's people were buying those stuff like crazy, then somewhere between 2005-2007... people just stopped buying. You can't even give away the stuff anymore. Glad I never bought any except for some of the cheapo Walmart stuff.
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10-11-2011, 04:44 AM | #267 |
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IMO another example would be the Nascar Diecast collectible industry... man... the market for those things just nosed dived straight off a cliff in only a couple of years. In the early 2000's people were buying those stuff like crazy, then somewhere between 2005-2007... people just stopped buying. You can't even give away the stuff anymore. Glad I never bought any except for some of the cheapo Walmart stuff.
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Personal value.
If this is an investment for you dollars wise as well as emotional (or only for dollars) then you're perhaps collecting for the wrong reasons. |
10-11-2011, 04:56 AM | #269 |
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Do any of you remember the Star Wars Power of the force collection? You know the stuff from the 90’s that came out, which today can be picked up still on card for pennies on the dollar. I saw a few weeks back in a box on a guys table at a flee market being sold for $1.00 per figure still on the card. Well I see the current 25th Joe line going the same way.
I do agree that a lot of GI JOE 25th Anniv. items were sucked up by collectors and kept on card, but there just isn't nearly as much of it out there by comparison. Quote:
Many of us need to take a lesson from the 90’s and remember the crash of the Comic book market, the crash of the Sports card market, the crash of the Collectable Gaming card market, the crash of the Beanie Baby market, or all the other crashes of value that came from the shear volume of products that people picked up like everyone else and stored away.
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10-11-2011, 05:10 AM | #270 |
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There are so many valid points on this thread. I am enjoying reading all of them.
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