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03-19-2009, 05:18 PM | #61 |
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I see the 25th/ME definitely phasing out regardless of the movie's success or failure. There frankly isn't that much left to be done, unless they start probing into the 90's more or fishing for new characters from the comic book or something like that. I doubt you'll see the big vehicles or playsets based upon the mixed results of the jets and the UBP. The big stuff will be dedicated to the movie line.
I think Hasbro will come back with Resolute. I'll bet they were surprised at how popular Resolute was, right out of the gate, with only a snippet of promotion at SDCC. Resolute is Hasbro's modernized, adult-focused alternative to the movie toys. Of course, this is purely speculation, so who knows... |
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03-19-2009, 05:18 PM | #62 |
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not trying to be an ass but theres like 50 threads for this topic
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03-19-2009, 05:20 PM | #63 |
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You're only half right, Hasbro has a winning brand with G.I.Joe, and has invested countless amounts of money into the brand, but Hasbro isn't afraid of taking risks, (Extreme.....well blame that on both Toy Biz and the Kenner Merger).
But to say that Hasbro won't listen to fans is absurd! I realize ARAH is over, and that's fine, and I realize Hasbro has other brands, but there's still a chance that we will see a Crossover with Transformers in the toylines. Hell COL. SHARP was in the first Transformers Movie, and Rumor has it that Hasbro wants to crossover the lines if fans are in favor after the films are over. So there are years left in Joe and this year is the Brands 1/6 scale 45th birthday! So expect big things from Hasbro. |
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I was trying to have a respectable discussion/rebuttal, but that tone is the #1 reason why people get into fights on these stupid boards.
You could have simply said "You didn't answer the question" in a better tone, and it wouldn't have come across as being so antagonistic. Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandingo Rex
I was referring to the movie toys perhaps not selling well to children because of parental concerns over war toys, in a time of war, which has potentially led to the recession we're currently neck-deep in.
As for the 25th line being war toys... well, obviously they are, and obviously the 25th line wasn't intended for young kids. What kids want to play with exact replicas of outdated toys that were made a quarter-century before they were born? They were geared at 25-35 year old men who are still willing to shell out the cash, and with the hopes that perhaps those dads have kids who they could get into the toys... But without a movie or cartoon at the time to support it, I don't see the 25th/ME figures being geared towards children, despite what a lot of folks on here tend to believe. Hell, if a line was designed for adult collectors only, most retailers wouldn't stock it in the toy aisles. Toys are a fairly low-margin item for most big retailers, from my understanding. They're not going to shed a tear over what amounts to a drop in the bucket for their revenue, particularly if it can be replaced by a line (or expand the shelf space of a line) that has proven kid appeal and sales. Quote:
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The movie line is geared towards kids. It has big-ass, oversized shooting weapons and kid-friendly gimmicks, the packaging is flashier, and if we don't see a movie-based cartoon next fall, then I'm pretty sure Resolute MAY be being retooled for kids to follow up the movie, much like TF:Animated followed the TF film.
My main concern is based off the model of the TF Alternators and I can see a parallel in the Joe 25th line. It was said that the TF Alternators would go on a "hiatus" for the movie, to never return again. One - Alternators were about the same level of "classic" product to Transformers as Sigma Six was to G.I. Joe - Same characters...quite different designs. Two - Alternators were a sub-line of Transformers, not the theme of the entire brand. G.I. Joe is a brand. Alternators is a segment within a larger brand. Quote:
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I think Star Wars is an exception and shouldn't be the rule... Star Wars would be stupid not to try and market the original films and expanded universe as much as possible... But those movies are available on DVD (The GI Joe cartoon is relatively out of the price range to go and buy, and rather dated now... much more than Star Wars, which is set in a different time and galaxy... GI Joe is set in the "real world" and very much stuck in the Cold War). Hell, Star Wars even has new subject matter (Clone Wars, etc) for kids to watch.
I think TF Alternators or Classics is a much better parallel to GI Joe, since they've always seemed to run parallel anyways. Especially since they're both "classic"-inspired revivals, although in different ways. Quote:
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The Alternators "sort of" are returning, as Alternity—being a real-world, licensed vehicle that turns into classic TFs—but are a different scale (WTF?) and have much more movie-inspired designs in robot form, and despite the scale issue, wouldn't fit in with Alternators anyways.
If people don't see the similarities like I do to the Alternators line, then the Classics line is another example of how, even though it did return after the movie, it wasn't the same, and was very short-lived. It was rebranded as "Transformers Universe", the packaging wasn't the same, and if you ask me, they don't feel 100% like the first series of Classics. If people are expecting the 25A/Modern line to simply return to shelves in its' current form, pushing aside all movie product (as well as tie-ins for any other new media that might be produced) I think they're expecting a bit too much. Quote:
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True, but the sheer scale of the movie versus Sigma 6 isn't anywhere near the same. With the bucks poured into Rise of Cobra, if the line DOESN'T do well, it could seriously fuck the Joe line for time to come. If it DOES do well, then it will keep going and there won't be a need to return to the classics. Seriously, if Sigma 6 had done that awesomely, or Sgt. Savage or Extreme, do you think they would have gone back to the original formula that worked? It would be stupid on their part.
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I'm not being negative for negativity's sake, I'm being realistic.
It's pretty much apples and pears. Last edited by Jmacq1; 03-19-2009 at 05:24 PM.. |
03-19-2009, 05:21 PM | #65 |
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Is this still going?
Seriously? Nobody has toy runs to make or something? |
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If it's the end of the 25th anniversary line but we get more resolute stuff i will be okay. The Resilute figs so far are awesome.
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03-19-2009, 05:24 PM | #67 |
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Zefram..See my Thread.....2009 the year I went Broke (alas no toy runs today)
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03-19-2009, 05:28 PM | #69 |
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Yeah there a re a few randoms one I want from the later years, but other than LOWLIGHT! and Footloose who's left?
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03-19-2009, 05:28 PM | #70 |
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personally, I think a strict ME line has run its course, so I hope it goes away. I still want some more vintage remakes, but I'd rather see them as part of a new line with new designs.
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