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03-19-2009, 09:54 AM | #21 |
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Okay, here's the deal (as I see it): As mentioned above and in many other places on the 'tank, obviously Hasbro's focus is on the movie line. That is why Resolute has screeched to a halt and the ME line has been cut short, for the moment. It's all about the movie.
Here are the possible scenarios: Scenario 1. Movie line "epic fails" like so many on this site have been wishing for (because they are deluded into thinking that somehow that will magically make Hasbro "get smart" and stop trying to create a new generation of Joe fans, and focus on them, and only churn out '80s and '90s repaints for the forseeable future). The naysayers are completely right and kids could care less about any new version of GI Joe. Silly Hasbro, GI Joe is for fanboys... The result: GI Joe becomes stagnent, clogs shelves like Batman, Spiderman, Hulk, Indiana Jones and Speed Racer before them. Stores refuse to buy any Joe product at least until their excess inventory is slowly sold off or clearanced. GI Joe as a line is no longer in demand. (This could happen whether the movie itself succeeds or fails). Eventually, after a long hiatus while all the excess product is finally clearanced off to the point where retailers will spare a peg or two for Joe again, Hasbro will try to re-ignite Resolute and slowly finish off what little remains of the 25th figures. About 3 waves after that, all the original good figures and all the small, manageable vehicles are depleted and the ME line dies a slow death. 25th versions of Raptor, Crystal Ball and Big Boa hang on the shelves longer than that stupid Imperial general guy in the black classic SW package. Finally, after being reduced to $.25 the last Crystal Ball is purchased and scalped on ebay for $.50 in February 2015. Resolute is well received (not by kids, just the manchildren) and that line continues along at the moderate success rate of the current ME line until somebody's favorite Joes start being killed off (since it is realistic), some of the concepts diverge from the original '80s Joe and more and more repaints emerge, the fanboys turn on Resolute, the line dies. Now only the convention attendees and club members can get even the recycled junk they call the Joe line... Scenario 2. The naysayers are wrong (though you'll never hear it admitted), the movie line is well enough received that it manages not to clog pegs (save for a few wtf figures, and overpriced vehicles) and a few more waves of movie figures are produced and a few more vehicles. The result: GI Joe rides a wave of popularity that puts the line into Transformers territory. The wave lasts through the holidays where multiple additional movie waves are introduced and the last vestiges of the 25th line are mixed in. The Modern Era fades away gracefully. Resolute re-emerges in the spring as the movie line popularity wanes. The Resolute preview becomes a mini-series, then a regular late evening series. Because of the popularity of the movie, many new fanboys and manchildren join our ranks and find the nostalgic joys of collecting the GI Joe Resolute line (even desperately trying to get ahold of 25th and ME stuff), a line focused on carrying the torch for all us classic Joe fans. Resolute carries on, reintroducing many of the classic characters and vehicles in a modern, action themed modern GI Joe. Kids all across the country get in trouble for trying to secretly watch their dad's dvr'ed Joe Resolute. GI Joe 2 comes out in 2011 to the extreme displeasure of the fanboys (as Resolute takes a hiatus to focus on the kids again, the audacity of it) and the cycle begins all over again... That's my take. Feel free to correct me if you find anything but truth here. Last edited by thunderdan19; 03-19-2009 at 09:58 AM.. |
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03-19-2009, 10:09 AM | #22 |
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With the recent Hasbro Q&A, it's pretty obvious that the upcoming Vehicle Wave 5 and the two 7-Packs are about all we're gonna get for the foreseeable future when it comes to the "25th" style line.
Yes, Hasbro is focusing on the Movie-Style line. But, no matter how the movie line fares, I think it might mean the end for the 25th style line. If the Movie figures do well, then Hasbro will continue with their obvious plan to simply make figures of characters who do not appear in the film and make them "movie style". I don't know about you, but I'm not really looking forward to Robo-Joe versions of all my favorite Joes. So, if kids buy into the Movie line-- which I can almost guarantee that they won't. I think the movie figures will sit on the shelves till Christmas when they'll be discounted on clearance. But, if kids do but into the movie line-- then Hasbro will think "ka-ching!" and just keep going with that horrible looking line. But-- if the line dies on the shelves and stores are flooded with Joe merchandise that they can't sell, then they won't be looking for new Joe product, and Hasbro will turn away from Joe, thinking that it's an unsuccessful line. That means that the slow-build and rapport that they've created with the 25th Joe line will have all been killed to make way for movie figures that kids just don't care about. Either way, the collectors who love the 25th line lose. If the Movie figures do well, no more-- or VERY limited-- 25th style figures. If the Movie line bombs, no more Joe product for a while-- period. That's just how I'm predicting things. Granted, they've covered most of the major characters that I've always wanted to see in the 25th line-- but there are still some great ones to be made! Airtight, Jinx, Zandar, Zarana... and many, many more that are lesser fan favorites. I just hope that Hasbro does not turn their backs on the 25th line and the collector's base that they've worked so hard to gain faith in again. But, I don't have a good feeling about things.... What do you guys think? |
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03-19-2009, 10:26 AM | #25 |
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I mean, it couldn't possibly be that supply and demand are pretty much mirrored up with the Modern Era line, and those lingering pegwarmers that many people are finding might be a sign that it's gone about as far as it was gonna go anyway, in terms of attracting a new audience and actually making the brand grow. But what does Hasbro know? Growth is bad, obviously, because attracting a new audience might actually risk new and different things happening with the Joe franchise. We don't want those pesky kids around here, no sir! Hasbro should strictly cater to the 25-35 year old fanboys and never ever change anything, or try anything new, different, or innovative because if the all-powerful Joe-God Hama didn't craft it from the dirt and breathe life into it, and the event wasn't witnessed by 12 fanboy apostles firsthand before being turned over to Hasbro for production, then clearly it isn't "real" G.I. Joe. Last edited by Jmacq1; 03-19-2009 at 10:30 AM.. |
03-19-2009, 10:38 AM | #26 |
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That's just crazy talk, Dan. Don't you know that the Modern Era Joe line is CLEARLY the best-selling toy in the history of selling toys?
... Hasbro should strictly cater to the 25-35 year old fanboys and never ever change anything, or try anything new, different, or innovative because if the all-powerful Joe-God Hama didn't craft it from the dirt and breathe life into it, and the event wasn't witnessed by 12 fanboy apostles firsthand before being turned over to Hasbro for production, then clearly it isn't "real" G.I. Joe. |
03-19-2009, 10:39 AM | #27 |
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That's just crazy talk, Dan. Don't you know that the Modern Era Joe line is CLEARLY the best-selling toy in the history of selling toys? I mean, even though it only has 1/4 to 1/2 the shelf space of lines like Star Wars, Transformers, and Power Rangers, it still outsells them all because I can't find the specific figures and items I want on the shelves! Modern Era G.I. Joe is selling better than any time since the 80's! I know it's true because I read it on the internet!
I mean, it couldn't possibly be that supply and demand are pretty much mirrored up with the Modern Era line, and those lingering pegwarmers that many people are finding might be a sign that it's gone about as far as it was gonna go anyway, in terms of attracting a new audience and actually making the brand grow. But what does Hasbro know? Growth is bad, obviously, because attracting a new audience might actually risk new and different things happening with the Joe franchise. We don't want those pesky kids around here, no sir! Hasbro should strictly cater to the 25-35 year old fanboys and never ever change anything, or try anything new, different, or innovative because if the all-powerful Joe-God Hama didn't craft it from the dirt and breathe life into it, and the event wasn't witnessed by 12 fanboy apostles firsthand before being turned over to Hasbro for production, then clearly it isn't "real" G.I. Joe. |
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03-19-2009, 10:45 AM | #28 |
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It's an intentionally exaggerated sarcastic bit, yes. The only thing I forgot to mention is that even if Hama -did- breathe life into it and 12 fanboy apostles witnessed it, half of the 25-35 year old fanboys would still reject it because it wasn't created between 1982 and 1987. ;)
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Hasbro, do you really want this on your conscience? Please make more 25th style Joes!!! The future of mankind depends on it!
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I'm not so sure. Here's my theory... If they discontinue the 25th line all us Joe collectors will riot in the streets. We will all attend the GI JOE convention in a congregation that will more than dwarf the million man march. The enormous amount of weight concentrated in that one area from this mass of people will cause a huge weight upon the earth's crust. The Earth's polarity will shift causing massive volcanic eruptions. The ash will fill the atmosphere with a cloud more massive than that of the dinosaur extinction. The sun will be blotted out, plants will die. Humans will become extinct within 2 years of this catastrophe.
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