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View Poll Results: G.I. Joe 25th Anniversary Fixed Crotch Do You Like It? | |||
Yes | 57 | 51.82% | |
No | 53 | 48.18% | |
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11-30-2007, 08:25 PM | #51 |
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First of all, all of you need to realize these figures CAN be played with and are nowhere near as fragile as anyone makes them out to be. I can attest to this as all my model kits I have ever owned are broken, yet my anniversary joes are still in one piece. My main beef was with the soft plastic used in the hands, which contributed to my Snake Eyes having a stuck wrist and consequently breaking(fixed now and retains articulation but boy was that a trip).
Balance is needed between articulation and sculpt, so long as one is increased without destroying the other, we will have nothing to be mad about, and its already looking to go that way. Yes Hasbro makes most of their profit from kids, but theres no doubt that a lot of collectors are actually fueling this line. For this year at least, this line is OURS. |
11-30-2007, 08:28 PM | #52 |
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My two cents.
The only reason I can come up for this massive controversial subject is that their are Star Wars Fans that have taken a liking to the new Joes. Star Wars fans have always taken looks and realism first and articutation second. Joe fans have always taken articulation first and looks second. If you check the other long standing Joe boards they love the new modification with no complants, just appreciation for Hasbro listening to them. Last edited by ltfalcon; 11-30-2007 at 08:30 PM.. |
11-30-2007, 10:48 PM | #53 |
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It took them many years, but the Star Wars Hasbro team finally found a perfect balance between modern-day articulation standards and modern-day aesthetics standards. Sure, not all of their figures are great examples of this, but many are. And they keep delving into new territory. For example, check out the all-new ball-hinged wrists that the "upgraded" Commander Gree will sport:
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC0803greeart.jpg http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC0803greepose.jpg I really didn't see that coming AT ALL. ...and the G.I.Joe team will eventually find that "middle point" for their new line. In fact, I think it's already sort of happening with wave 5. It's not like we have to choose between articulation and aesthetics. Both can coexist in harmony! Some diplomacy (give and take) will be needed along the road though :p oh and btw... about the "long legs" and/or "small torsos" found in many modern-day (2000's), pre-25th joes: I don't think that happened because of the designers "giving in" to "articulation over aesthetics". That happened because of, well, bad design. Period :p
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11-30-2007, 11:11 PM | #54 |
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Originally Posted by Gentleman
It took them many years, but the Star Wars Hasbro team finally found a perfect balance between modern-day articulation standards and modern-day aesthetics standards. Sure, not all of their figures are great examples of this, but many are. And they keep delving into new territory. For example, check out the all-new ball-hinged wrists that the "upgraded" Commander Gree will sport:
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC0803greeart.jpg http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC0803greepose.jpg I really didn't see that coming AT ALL. ...and the G.I.Joe team will eventually find that "middle point" for their new line. In fact, I think it's already sort of happening with wave 5. It's not like we have to choose between articulation and aesthetics. Both can coexist in harmony! Some diplomacy (give and take) will be needed along the road though :p oh and btw... about the "long legs" and/or "small torsos" found in many modern-day (2000's), pre-25th joes: I don't think that happened because of the designers "giving in" to "articulation over aesthetics". That happened because of, well, bad design. Period :p
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11-30-2007, 11:24 PM | #55 |
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Originally Posted by the_loud_master
dude that gree looks sick. to bad he was in the movie for five minutes. can you post the url for the review?
http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front...ate_110354.asp http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC0803gree.asp
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11-30-2007, 11:34 PM | #56 |
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It says a lot when members of other fandoms chime in to point out what everyone should already know:
Debate is healthy. Complaining isn't. There are going to be people who enjoy both versions of the figure. There are those that are upset that they now have to buy new sculpts...but then again, didn't we all want a re-tooling after we were given "diaper crotches"? With all due respect to everyone's opinion, aren't there bigger issues to address with this line such as: 1. AVAILABILITY 2. prone-to-breakage wrists 3. Shoddy Elbows I'd much rather be able to find a figure and have him hold a weapon correctly than worry about whether or not he can sit in a perfectly upright position in a vehicle. As Apacolypse said elsewhere...the re-tooling should have taken place with a yet unreleased wave, so that we are all introduced to new figures with the new tooling, rather than figures that we all already have. I mean..I'll be damned if I buy a 6th Zartan, LOL! |
11-30-2007, 11:40 PM | #57 |
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Yep. Unreleased line would of been the way to go.
The question is: Just how many people are going to go out, buy the re-tooled version of a figure they now own....to turn around and return the first version to the store? Sales are gonna take a beating with issues like that.
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12-01-2007, 12:19 AM | #58 |
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Originally Posted by C.I.A.D.
With all due respect to everyone's opinion, aren't there bigger issues to address with this line such as:
1. AVAILABILITY Quote:
Originally Posted by C.I.A.D.
2. prone-to-breakage wrists
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Originally Posted by C.I.A.D.
3. Shoddy Elbows
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12-01-2007, 02:00 AM | #59 |
The Grey
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Say, you folks think we'll get some sort of wave 4 "revision" with fixed crotches? I really didn't expect to see Stalker getting the fix, so I'm getting kinda hopeful here.
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12-01-2007, 02:19 PM | #60 |
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just enjoy them this joe line was dead for so long untill the 25th came out! and hasbro will get it right i have faith. bring on new chacters!!
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