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10-08-2008, 09:14 AM | #31 |
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If you are referring to the nozzles, those are actually accurate to the Pratt and Whitney TF-30 engines that the F-14A had. Since the XP-14F was based on the F-14A model, the engine nozzles are very similar.
It's not obsolete, if you are referring to the Tomcat in US military service, the program was killed due to political decisions and high operating cost. The Super Hornet that replaced it cannot best it in the areas that it was best at. The Super Hornet is good at being a jack of all trades, master of none. There are things the Tomcat can do that no other US jet can do. Often when a fighter replaces an older fighter, the new fighter ought to do everything better, but in this case, the Super Hornet does not beat it in certain areas, particularly range, loiter time, interception range, speed, fuel capacity, et al. The Super Hornet is sufficient for today's climate, and yes the Tomcat needed replacement, unfortunately the NATF never bore fruition, and the advanced Tomcats never made it off the drawing board. That's a discussion for another thread though. The Skystriker itself is not obsolete. Yes it would be risky to sell, but it is iconic. Hasbro knows the X-wing is iconic, and that the new mold X-wing which came out in recent years is popular, but since it is risky at retail, it is only sold as an exclusive every few years(2x as Luke's dagobah version in different paint schemes, and once as Red Leader's). A lot of people complain about the lack of their favorite RAH characters in the modern era/anniversary line. Well what if they were made, but Hasbro says, "hey, you know what? This guy wore this costume in the 80's, let's dress him up with some new, modernized stuff". A lot of people would be pissed asking why we get a Snake Eyes variant, this time around wearing white, or Chuckles, in a uniform worn by the original 13, only with digital camo. Basically we want to see modern toys of characters/vehicles we grew up with. Same reason people only wanted specific versions of Duke, Snake Eyes, et al. I don't mind seeing a YF-23 Skystriker, since the joes use it in Resolute, but making a F-22 toy and calling it a Skystriker will not cut it for us. Even if we get the 23, we still want a classic version too. It's like Star Wars, you have the E-wing, which succeeded the X-wing, what if Hasbro made a vehicle line focusing on the original trilogy, and instead of the X-wing, they shove the E-wing in instead and said the X-wing was obsolete? Same premise. You can't beat a classic, can't beat an icon. Look at the Rattler and Conquest sales. Through the roof. People are buying multiples. Watch the online store tracker, available, out of stock available out of stock. Usually the same week. These are the secondary vehicles. Make the primary ones and you'll see the same type of sales or even greater. When I said obsolete, I was referring to what the Hasbro people said regarding the retirement of the F14. They may do a skystriker in the future, but it will be a current plane and not the retired F14. In my mind, they are regarding it as obsolete. Not the toy, but the real jet. I guess they STILL don't get the fact that kids are not the ones sinking the money in the line but the old school collectors. We have the jobs, the money and the room for all of it. Kids MAY get a figure or 2 or maybe even 1 of the smaller vehicles. A worldwide release of 20,000 Skystrikers would sell out in no time. Lots of toy companies would LOVE to have a product that could 20,000 units in a week. Instead of saying it looks like they will NOT make it really hurts the future of the line even if they are saying the line will stop. |
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10-08-2008, 09:31 AM | #32 |
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Ok we can't really compare the Joes to Star Wars because George Lucas has turned that damn near into a Gazillion dollar franchise and damn near 6 out of 10 people just love them some Star Wars. They start naming their kids after characters and pretending their vehicles are the ones in the movie.
But back to the topic at hand, if Hasbro can make a BMF and then that huge ass Walker, and then all the other vehicles from the movies... then why not throw out a Skystriker?? Be it a Raptor or a Tomcat... dammit do something!! Hasbro can't be that dumb. I mean they can't keep single figures on the shelves, and the vehicles are selling like Hotcakes at a Weight Watchers convention. So make the damn mold, fill it with liquid plastic, and make at least 30,000 people happy !!! |
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10-08-2008, 09:37 AM | #33 |
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I agree with you 110% Shin...
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10-08-2008, 09:42 AM | #34 |
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I'd be happy with BBi jets available in stores at a reasonable price.
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10-08-2008, 09:59 AM | #35 |
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Nah, Shin, you are spot on. An upgraded Skystriker would be a grail for all us Joe collectors. Everybody would have to have one. You think the Target employees got sick of us calling and crashing their computer tracking system looking for Rattlers and Conquests? Just release an upgraded Skystriker and watch us annoy every toy manager in America trying to get ours! (you listening Hasbro?)
I also agree with every improvement you've suggested (independent wings/gear, better Ace, coloring, et al). That custom is fantastic! I also like the ideas about different squadron markings and ordnance loads. H'bro could consult BBI for some ideas about new coloring, weathering and markings. Could you imagine the sweetness? Imagine if H'bro surprised us and released the Skystriker and Night Raven similarly to how they paired up the Rattler/Conquest just in time for the holidays... Now go clean your pants... geez... |
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10-08-2008, 10:07 AM | #36 |
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For the Holidays?? HAHAHA!! Maybe next holiday because this holiday we all get to fight over the Battle Pack at Target. I really hope this thing don't hit the shelves the day after Thanksgiving because we're going to have to start a new thread on here called "Who did you whoop for a Battle Pack after Turkey Day?"
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10-08-2008, 10:15 AM | #37 |
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Here are mine:
-no interlinking with the landing gear and sweeping wings. This bugged me when I was younger. What if you wanted to save space, display the striker on it's gear and have the wings folded back? Without modification, it was impossible to do this on the old one! Not to mention, the Skystriker/F-14 has it's wings swept forward a lot during flight, so having the wheels go down each time the wings are swept forward sucks in a way. Quote:
-clips to hold the figures in place on the seats, instead of pegs. Clips like the one on the new FANG and trouble bubble
-gloss stickers that actually stick, no stickers like on the recent Conquest or Rattler! -have it come with an Ace with a realistic fighter pilot's helmet...like on RAH v3 Ace, the most realistic Ace ever! Quote:
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You're preaching to the choir boyo. I know it, you know it, and everyone else here knows it but the damn suits in upper management don't. They THINK they know what we want.
Look at the Rattler and Conquest sales. Through the roof. People are buying multiples. Watch the online store tracker, available, out of stock available out of stock. Usually the same week. These are the secondary vehicles. Make the primary ones and you'll see the same type of sales or even greater. When I said obsolete, I was referring to what the Hasbro people said regarding the retirement of the F14. They may do a skystriker in the future, but it will be a current plane and not the retired F14. In my mind, they are regarding it as obsolete. Not the toy, but the real jet. I guess they STILL don't get the fact that kids are not the ones sinking the money in the line but the old school collectors. We have the jobs, the money and the room for all of it. Kids MAY get a figure or 2 or maybe even 1 of the smaller vehicles. A worldwide release of 20,000 Skystrikers would sell out in no time. Lots of toy companies would LOVE to have a product that could 20,000 units in a week. Instead of saying it looks like they will NOT make it really hurts the future of the line even if they are saying the line will stop. As an aside: If you like the Skystriker, why not join the Hiss Tank Skystriker Squadron?
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You know, at first I thought there didn't need to be any changes, but after reading Shin's first post, I agree with many of them:
No interlinking with the landing gear and sweeping wings - Yeah, good (nay, GREAT) idea. I can only really display my original Skystriker one way, and that's in flight on a stand. It's too big to display on its wheels on my shelves, and if (I mean when) I get a Flagg I'll want the wings tucked back to save space too. Clips to hold the figures in place on the seats, instead of pegs - This, I don't think is necessary. The Rattler or Conquest doesn't have anything, I don't see why the Skystriker needs them, especially since the bulkier 25th figures will fit more tightly in there. I do like the idea of clips for the parachutes though. Gloss stickers that actually stick, no stickers like on the recent Conquest or Rattler! - Good idea, but how about we go one better and say NO stickers. Do the factory applied non-sticker markings, it's about time! If they do stickers, please don't apply some in the factory, though. They are too often screwed up. Mold the plane in grey instead of bright white - Yeah, that'd be kind of cool. Mold the vertical stabilizers molded in black like on the box art - I like that idea too! Have it come with an Ace with a realistic fighter pilot's helmet...like on RAH v3 Ace, the most realistic Ace ever! - Yeah, why not? I mean, we have the original one anyway. (BTW, if they ever do a Dragonfly, I'd like to see Wild Bill without a g-suit, too!) Quote:
Personally, I myself would want it to look like the original vintage Skystriker.
No black paint on the fins, or anything like that. Consider me a G1 purist. I agree about the shit quality stickers that came with the new reissued jets. Those need to be changed on all future re-releases. Better quality stickers is a must. I don't care too much about what they do with the Ace figure. It was all about the jet for me, and not so much the figure. The thing must include a Parachute like the original. Don't get me wrong I love that custom Skystriker pic that was posted, but like I said.....G1 purist.
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The only way they reissue the Skystriker is if it comes with the reissued USS FLAGG. That would be flipping sweet and worth the 2 bills they would charge for it. They might because they reissued a retooled Star Wars Millinum Falcon for $150-$175. All we have is hope.
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The reason I say the F-14 is obsolete too is this aircraft appeared in the early 60's. It is almost 45 years old! It would be like in the 80's putting Cobras and Joes into WWI-WW2 aircraft! LOL
I also think a F-22 would be more fitting since Hasbro already has agreements with Lockheed to use it's likess in toys (see transformers Starscream). It dosen't have to be exaclty a Skystriker per say, just a large newer GI JOE jet if we can never have the original Skystiker design again is all I am saying. If they put it with some form of a FLAGG it would be like $800 or over $1000 and I am ot going that far with my money LOL. Be cool to see a FLAGG with some F-35s though, wish they had done F-35 variants instead of the X-30... |
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