Hasbro doesn't know how to get the case mixes right!

So, I see all the threads about people complaining about shitty distribution and peg warmers. The way I see it, the problem is the case breakouts that Hasbro is delivering. The management deciding the makeup has historically made pretty bad predictions on what they anticipate demand to be for figures. If the mix was better, they'd have more consistent sales across stores and distribution would fix itself. Because they have peg warmers (which can be anticipated a majority of the time), stock is stagnating with no replenishment. Also, I think retailers like target are afraid to order more items that will not move. Sad when they've devoted four pegs to joe figures.

Hasbro execs thought the Renegades line would be desirable because of the terrible cartoon and favored them versus the better designed 30th figures. Now, all you see is renegades warming the pegs. Even the renegades cobra trooper, a figure Renegades fans raved about, has been easy to find. This just proves the show was a failure and figures linked to the show follow suit.

The odd thing about wave 3 is storm shadow was in the show, the figure has something both 30th and the few renegades fans like and was packed only one per case. Then he's not even included in the following wave 4 but they give us an extra cobra trooper that was packed two per case in the previous wave!

If you look at the cases and repeats, they often give us the same figure three waves in a row when that figure came 2 to a case in the first appearance. We keep getting hazard vipers, cobra vipers, cobra troopers, iron grenadiers and steel brigades. Though we've had pleasant surprises like the new body for the steel brigade figures, we've been inundated with these figures for months now in stores. Why wave 4 didn't include two of each new figure boggles the mind.

I've included my clearance find below. These figures have been sitting out a week at $5! Mostly comprised of renegades with a few hazard vipers and cobra troopers. Most of the cheddar was scraped out already by the time I got there but these are the remnants of waves 2, 3 and 4.

I know Hasbro employees view these boards on occasion. I can only hope they do some market research and check the barometer for figures on fan sites before deciding on case breakdowns. If they simply posted the images from toy fair and the joecon with blind voting, they could figure out which figures will have the highest demand and produce accordingly.

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I couldn't agree more with you, but it's not only Joes. It's all of their figures. The worst culprits are their movie lines. Many of the later waves end up getting shipped out to the discount stores because the brick & mortar stores no longer want to order any. Hasbro then claims that those waves are "cancelled" but the only thing that was really cancelled were their orders for the figures. We know better though when we see them at places like Marshalls, Ross, and TJ Maxx. I even had to find the next to final wave of the Iron Man 2 figures at Burlington Coat Factory of all places. (I'm still missing the unmasked War Machine figure though.)

I have still yet to find any figures from waves 3 & 4 of the 30th line at any of the brick & mortar stores. I did see Law & Order and Ripcord once at a Stop & Shop supermarket but at $9.99 I left them there thinking the stores would get them in soon enough for the holidays. Well that was weeks ago and the holidays have come and gone, but the stores never did get any stock.

It's refreshing to see your Walmart with that kind of stock, especially at clearance price. I think I have alll of the figures at the front of those pegs, except for Scarlet that is. If I was there I would have dove on in to look for others that I need... LOL!

i haven't seen that many joes at retail since i was a little tyke! that aside, you are right on point man, i can't add anything to it, except the fact that stuff seems to go on clearance in the states super fast.

Dude.. I would be buying up so many of those figures for my collection and for fodder. Wish mine would have pegs like that. All I get are one row of three pegs and all that is on there is 3 Ren. SE at full retail. LOL

Now on to a serious note.

Hasbro has listened.. look how many times people complained about getting the same 4 figures in every wave. I.E.. Duke, SE, SS and Cobra Commander. Everyone kept asking for army builders to be packed 2 per so that there would be a less likely hood of there being peg warmers.. Now.. You see a lot of the army builders left on pegs, yes a few Ren. Figures as well (Mainly CC and SE) So they short pack SS.. which ended up screwing people out of getting one since they are not in wave 4 cases. I will say that it won't be the last of SS thanks to most Wal Mart stores stocking revision cases.. We still have some time before the movie figures hit. I could be wrong, but I think Hasbro will read how many collectors missed out on him and decide to sneak him in a case assortment towards the end.

I agree with you, Hasbro can't do a case assortment to save their company. First of all Renegade figures shouldn't have been released with the 30th lineup. Honestly, I don't think the Renegade figures should have been released at all this late in the game. The series got canned(not falling for the hiatus crap), and they have no plans of releasing it on video.

Steel Brigade, Cobra Trooper, Cobra Viper, Iron Grenadier were carry overs from the POC lineup and did not need to be released in every single wave. That leaves us with nine figures left; Stalker, Hazard Viper, Techno Viper, Storm Shadow, Airtight, Law & Order, Lifeline, Sci-Fi and Zombie Viper. These could have been spreaded out into two more Waves and 2-3 of each per case. They would have sold just fine and we wouldn't be flooded with pegs of Renegade figures most of us don't want.

The problem with Hasbro is that 2nd Waves tend to hit the Holiday season and they always over produce 2nd waves and do a f***ing revision case of stuff that's already on the pegs. I will never understand Hasbro's logic. PAY ATTENTION HASBRO, new lines (be it 25th/ME, ROC, POC, 30th) are always released mid summer and you have four waves planned. That gives you 3-4 months before November to release all four waves. Then when November comes around when the Holiday Rush hits, then you can do revision cases. What is so hard about that, Hasbro? Release everything you plan to release and then do your f***ing revision cases and guess what THE $#!+ WILL SELL and no clogging the pegs. Collectors that missed stuff earlier, get a chance at them again. Also parents and grandparents would be buying stuff too. It's a win-win for everybody. Collectors get everything they want, stores need more product and you get more orders.

Brick & Mortars lost faith in the Joe Brand and it's Hasbro's own fault. I guarantee after Retaliation stores will avoid the Joe brand like a plague all over again. Why? because Hasbro can't distribute their product equally. Stores are like crack-addicts when it comes to toys attached to a movie. "Gimme, gimme, gimme" They will order the hell of the stuff but don't send them just the first two waves, mix the shit up. Release all the product you have then do revisions during Christmas time. Hasbro, you're only shooting yourselves in the foot.

Least you guys have peg warmers. :(

The last two waves of POC is a more ideal way to distribute figures. 4 new figures with 3 of each per case.

One of Hasbro's carbon copy excuses is about core figures always need to be represented. I guess Storm Shadow is not a core character.

It's a problem that covers most of their action figure lines. Captain America may have been the one line to have all its figures hit retail in good quantities.

I could scour my area and not come up with nearly as much as in that one picture.

Originally Posted by brock Samson

WTF ever!!!

We already know Hasbro totally fucked up on the last 2 cases. You don't pack brand new figures 1 per case. You have to be the most retarded idiot to pack a new figure 1 per case.

Hasbro totally screwed us on Storm Shadow, Sci-Fi, Law & Order, Lifeline & Airtight. They should put out a revision case with only these 5 figures in it.