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08-04-2020, 11:35 AM | #291 |
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Today's new profile is the 1982 MMS:
https://forgotten--figures.blogspot....le-system.html As toys go, this one isn't great. But, it's one of the line's iconic pieces and isn't terribly expensive...yet.
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08-11-2020, 11:08 AM | #292 |
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Today's new profile is the 2002 Gift Set Stormshadow figure:
https://forgotten--figures.blogspot....ormshadow.html Collectors quickly turned this figure into a Red Ninja before the limitations of the mold really started to shine through.
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08-11-2020, 01:40 PM | #293 |
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Great read! I missed the BJs set but this was always the one figure from the set that I wanted.
One minor note, I'm pretty sure SS v3/4 had an O-ring, and that the only tooling change for v6/9/12 was to remove the spring-loaded action from the arms. |
08-18-2020, 10:58 AM | #294 |
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Today's new profile is the Sgt. Savage P-40 Warhawk:
https://forgotten--figures.blogspot....gt-savage.html The Sgt. Savage line was a retail disaster. But, in the mid 1990's, there wasn't much to buy at retail and I ended up with this plane.
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08-18-2020, 11:48 AM | #295 |
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Today's new profile is the Sgt. Savage P-40 Warhawk:
https://forgotten--figures.blogspot....gt-savage.html The Sgt. Savage line was a retail disaster. But, in the mid 1990's, there wasn't much to buy at retail and I ended up with this plane. I do lament with you though when seeing parts of the Battle Rangers line being released with Sgt. Savage. Sgt. Savage is light years ahead of GI Joe Extreme though and although it was a retail bust the vehicles/figures and artwork are way better than the putrid GI Joe extreme era. Last edited by HitandRun; 08-18-2020 at 11:50 AM.. |
08-18-2020, 11:52 AM | #296 |
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08-19-2020, 02:23 PM | #297 |
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I'm not sure that is a fair assessment. Yes, piles of the line ended up at retail, but so did 1993/4 GI Joe figures and vehicles. As well as many other popular lines cut down in their prime by corporate shenanigans.
Sgt. Savage was just as much a victim of the management shakeups at Hasbro as the abandonment of the 1995 line as a whole. It was originally just one of several brand segments in the 1995 line. But when Kenner took over, it became nothing more than a means to hold GI Joe retail space for Extreme, and probably only that because of the wider investment to things like advanced marketing and the animated feature. I think there WAS merit in the concept. 1995 was the 50th Anniversary of the end of World War 2, and I recall a good bit of nostalgia related to that in popular culture. If anything, Sgt. Savage was a bit ahead of curve given the release of stuff like Saving Private Ryan just a few years later. I feel what ultimately hurt Sgt. Savage and the brand as a whole was Hasbro's own indecisiveness on direction. Retailers bought into Savage as "the next big chapter of GI Joe", and seemingly bought into it fairly heavily. But less than a year after launch, Hasbro (via Kenner) told retailers "no, this new EXTREME line is the next big chapter of the brand" and many retailers dumped their inventory on Savage to stock Extreme. Sgt. Savage was DOA and Hasbro just didn't tell anyone. The fact the character made it into Extreme says to me they were hedging their bets on the line's reception and to create some continuity in Extreme.
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08-19-2020, 02:50 PM | #298 |
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I saw somewhere in YouTube land that the savage line was to be a competitor to the kenner extreme line. To see which design times would keep their jobs after the merger. It was unfairly stacked toward extreme. Kenner was doing well with the Extreme Justice line and wanted a crossover feel.
Btw, in my head Extreme Sgt. Savage is the second man to hold the name. Grandson to the first. Just for my own reality. |
08-19-2020, 04:42 PM | #299 |
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I'm not sure that is a fair assessment. Yes, piles of the line ended up at retail, but so did 1993/4 GI Joe figures and vehicles. As well as many other popular lines cut down in their prime by corporate shenanigans.
Sgt. Savage was just as much a victim of the management shakeups at Hasbro as the abandonment of the 1995 line as a whole. It was originally just one of several brand segments in the 1995 line. But when Kenner took over, it became nothing more than a means to hold GI Joe retail space for Extreme, and probably only that because of the wider investment to things like advanced marketing and the animated feature. I think there WAS merit in the concept. 1995 was the 50th Anniversary of the end of World War 2, and I recall a good bit of nostalgia related to that in popular culture. If anything, Sgt. Savage was a bit ahead of curve given the release of stuff like Saving Private Ryan just a few years later. I feel what ultimately hurt Sgt. Savage and the brand as a whole was Hasbro's own indecisiveness on direction. Retailers bought into Savage as "the next big chapter of GI Joe", and seemingly bought into it fairly heavily. But less than a year after launch, Hasbro (via Kenner) told retailers "no, this new EXTREME line is the next big chapter of the brand" and many retailers dumped their inventory on Savage to stock Extreme. Sgt. Savage was DOA and Hasbro just didn't tell anyone. The fact the character made it into Extreme says to me they were hedging their bets on the line's reception and to create some continuity in Extreme. |
08-19-2020, 09:33 PM | #300 |
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I saw somewhere in YouTube land that the savage line was to be a competitor to the kenner extreme line. To see which design times would keep their jobs after the merger. It was unfairly stacked toward extreme. Kenner was doing well with the Extreme Justice line and wanted a crossover feel.
Sgt. Savage and his Screaming Eagles (with animated special) Battle Corps Rangers/Battle Rangers Ninja Commandos Star Brigade (with the Manimal and Replicator sub-themes and an animated special) 12” Hall of Fame and a likely expansion to more WW2 themed ideas. A lot of people get all misty-eyed over not getting Battle Rangers, they forget the other segments of GI Joe that would have been released during that year. Extreme was Kenner making a toy line in most Kenner way possible.
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