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View Poll Results: Should Hasbro release a 4” Joe line using the 8” Sigma figure style? | |||
Yes | 13 | 26.00% | |
Probably | 10 | 20.00% | |
Undecided | 4 | 8.00% | |
Probably not | 7 | 14.00% | |
No | 16 | 32.00% | |
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12-18-2016, 02:01 PM | #31 |
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Without kid oriented media none of this matters. Changing the design without a cartoon series and/or a well done movie would do nothing except alienate the current fan base.
If they made a new cartoon or series of cartoons there would be room for everything. Think Star Wars or Marvel. Both of those have multiple child oriented cartoon properties, multiple toy scales, and many produced by Hasbro. And Hasbro owns Gijoe, so there is no reason GIJoe can't be equal to those, but since they don't have, Star Wars Rebels, Clone Wars, freemakers, Avengers Unite, Spider man. Thor cartoon Movie, Iron-man & Captain America cartoon movie, Rogue One, Avengers Movies, Captain America movies, the toys won't sell, and no one knows what they are looking at
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12-19-2016, 07:24 AM | #32 |
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^truth
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12-19-2016, 07:29 AM | #33 |
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Well if that is the case, you really have to consider whether the "old guard" has become more of a burden than a boon to the brand at this point.
Modern Era was designed to take advantage of the adult collector nostalgia market. It worked well for a few years, but has seen diminishing returns, basically ever since ROC. What are the odds that pattern will suddenly change? Everyone hoped Retaliation would fix everything for the toyline, but it probably just aggravated the declining situation even more. Hasbro needs to appeal to a new young audience now, while GI Joe still has some juice in it. Why try and shoehorn Modern Era, a line designed for collectors, into this process? Something needs to be custom designed to the new objectives and circumstances at hand. Best case scenario, that newly designed kid-oriented toyline would have some collector appeal to it, just as Modern Era had some incidental appeal to younger people, even though they were not the original intended market. ___ EDIT: I kind of misread MagicWazard's statement as saying there's "NOT room for both a kid and adult 4" line" when he actually said there IS room, which I do agree with, at least, in the long term. But, perhaps the collector line (whether Modern Era or something new) may have to face a hiatus until the kid line can really get going strong, and then the collector line can come back with a vengeance, riding on whatever success the kid line has generated. But in the short term, perhaps there wouldn't be room for both. New media *might* help me with interest in the ME line but even that wouldn't make m jump in 100%. |
04-01-2017, 10:34 AM | #34 |
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Yes I would definitely support Sigma6 4" figures, vehicles and playsets but only with modern era proportions and articulations so they would be compatible of whats out now
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04-01-2017, 02:48 PM | #35 |
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Unless you shop online or at Toys R Us...there is NOT anything out right now for GI Joe.
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04-01-2017, 03:09 PM | #36 |
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Not to pull this thread off topic (kind of moot given it is several months old by this stage):
But I think once the discussion become changing the aesthetics and stylings of the line..I think the "scale/size" discussion starts to come into play again. If you are already going to lose a bulk of your existing audience, then where is the need to keep the scale? 3.75/4" scale figures are predominantly intended to be used with vehicles and play sets, neither of which are huge components of a majority of modern lines (and those that do...aren't 4" figures), especially from Hasbro (given how they've handled their licenses). Further, most modern action shows don't rely on the MASSIVE cast GI Joe had back in the day. Shows like Extreme, Sigma 6 and Renegades focused on a half dozen or so "core team", which also doesn't really support the smaller scale and its larger case ratios as well. Even in the abandoned concept case of the line, there seemed quite a number of figures which didn't feature in the show to much, if any, degree. So I think scale becomes just as big a question in this instance.
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04-02-2017, 02:41 PM | #37 |
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Not to pull this thread off topic (kind of moot given it is several months old by this stage):
But I think once the discussion become changing the aesthetics and stylings of the line..I think the "scale/size" discussion starts to come into play again. If you are already going to lose a bulk of your existing audience, then where is the need to keep the scale? 3.75/4" scale figures are predominantly intended to be used with vehicles and play sets, neither of which are huge components of a majority of modern lines (and those that do...aren't 4" figures), especially from Hasbro (given how they've handled their licenses). Further, most modern action shows don't rely on the MASSIVE cast GI Joe had back in the day. Shows like Extreme, Sigma 6 and Renegades focused on a half dozen or so "core team", which also doesn't really support the smaller scale and its larger case ratios as well. Even in the abandoned concept case of the line, there seemed quite a number of figures which didn't feature in the show to much, if any, degree. So I think scale becomes just as big a question in this instance. I tried to bring the scale issue into the debate in this earlier poll http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...as-yes-no.html, but the idea of anything deviating from 4" was so savaged, that the issues of design, play-ability, articulation, all the things I really wanted to discuss, were completely ignored, such was the rancor over the scale issue. But really, my intention for all these polls, the 6" or 4" Sigma polls, was really just to try and get some broader discussion going, regarding possibilities for GI Joe that were not so Modern Era centric. All I want is a fun, playable, kid-friendly, energetic toy line (and support media) that brings in the young blood. I am not married to any particular scale, design or construction style, and if Modern Era can somehow be made to work and appeal to the young crowd, then fine. But the aversion many fans have to discussing alternatives, even with the brand at such low ebb and the need for a change seemingly so evident--is very frustrating.
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06-01-2017, 02:38 PM | #38 |
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I just want to see the canceled 8" figures produced at some point in the future, especially Dusty. Otherwise, I might have to enact an elaborate plan to steal Justin Bell's copy...
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06-01-2017, 05:52 PM | #39 |
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I tried to bring the scale issue into the debate in this earlier poll http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...as-yes-no.html, but the idea of anything deviating from 4" was so savaged, that the issues of design, play-ability, articulation, all the things I really wanted to discuss, were completely ignored, such was the rancor over the scale issue.
But really, my intention for all these polls, the 6" or 4" Sigma polls, was really just to try and get some broader discussion going, regarding possibilities for GI Joe that were not so Modern Era centric. All I want is a fun, playable, kid-friendly, energetic toy line (and support media) that brings in the young blood. I am not married to any particular scale, design or construction style, and if Modern Era can somehow be made to work and appeal to the young crowd, then fine. But the aversion many fans have to discussing alternatives, even with the brand at such low ebb and the need for a change seemingly so evident--is very frustrating. |
06-01-2017, 07:12 PM | #40 |
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I liked the resolute and renegades figures. I would probably like these as well. If it were scale and quality, I would probably like it.
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