|04-28-2009, 01:56 PM||#21|
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Join Date: Sep 2008
The death of Bazooka set up the cut scene after episode 8 where you see Gung Ho and Roadblock outside, they break down the door and then Destro set off the charges, the possibility then existed in your mind that they could be dead.
The death of Storm Shadow and Zartan also had you wondering if they were going to kill off ALL of Cobra before it was over.
Bazooka was an important enough of a character that his death wouldn't be dismissed as just a death for the sake of death.
|04-28-2009, 02:43 PM||#22|
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Character death by-itself isn't drama. By itself, I don't even consider it to be that mature. It's only because as an immature society that we shield our young from the realities of death that we can think that way. We didn't get to know Bazooka or Maj Blud before they bought it, so all their deaths accomplish is to say that now characters CAN die. And then they don't. Zartan is a question mark and CC is an even bigger question mark, which just leaves SS as the one confirmed on-screen death in the whole special.
That's basically three characters dead out of a pool of a hundred! Where is everone getting the idea there won't be enough left for any more (not that I'd care to see it).
|04-28-2009, 05:31 PM||#23|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Well something did just occurred to me, much as the 'kill 'em off, sort 'em out later' mindset of this flop still bugs me...INTRODUCE NEW CHARACTERS!
to replace Bazooka, there could be 'Stovepipe'...he's an out mentally handicapped Joe, so there's no question of his mentality. he doesn't say or do anything but he's buff and makes a wicked action figure, so who cares!
Zartan could be replaced by some sort of weasel with mass artillery, why beat around the bush with this one.
StormShadow could be replaced by...SHADOWSTORM, his twin brother who lost in an avalanche. He has no ties to spirit or snake eyes, so there's no irritatingly obtuse and frustrating side plots to get in the way of what you really want to watch, guns getting fired and ridiculously big weapons of mass destruction.
|04-28-2009, 09:35 PM||#24|
Join Date: Feb 2009
They killed of Bazook, Major Bludd, Zartan, and what a sick but sad battle between SE & SS.
|04-28-2009, 09:59 PM||#25|
Join Date: Oct 2008
I still feel that the only ones that are dead-dead are Bazooka and Major Bludd. The ones that are "dead" could be brought back in the event of an on-going series. Even Storm Shadow, I think. Maybe he survived via some sort of ninja trick or something.
|04-29-2009, 12:39 PM||#26|
Join Date: Jul 2008
I disagree with you, and my favorite character WAS killed on a whim. Hell, check my screenname and you can guess who my favorite character is...and he didn't even get a line.
Regardless, I thought Resolute was awesome and I'm perfectly fine with the deaths. Really, what? 4 characters died (assuming that Zartan is dead), out of potentially how many total did we have back in the day? It woudn't even make a dent in the numbers of stories that can still be told.
And like most of us, that were kids in the 80's, I loved Stormshadow too. But I can't honestly say that the Joe-verse would suffer with SIGNIFICANTLY less ninja in it. If there was one main character who's death would improve the very nature of the universe it was him. GI Joe started out as commandos, tanks and battlefields. Us kids just thought Stormshadow was so "cool" that he altered it to the ninja fest that almost devolved into Power Rangers by the end.
Again, I have nothing against Stormshadow (personally I love him too). But the ninja angle could really be lost and improve the universe.
Zartan would be a bigger loss, IMO, though as long as you still have the Dreadnoks, I think its fairly easily overcome.
The deaths in Resolute didn't bother me, as far as wanting more of it goes. I'd see a follow-up story involving Tomax & Xamot ressurecting Cobra through the financial world into a Wall Street empire, Destro and the Baroness's escape and ending with the unexpected return of Cobra Commander.
|04-29-2009, 01:02 PM||#27|
Join Date: Oct 2007
You know the one thing that kinda bugs me is theres no real morning for any of these characters, no funerals no characters really upset that they losted a friend & teammate(yes covergirl seemed to be the only one effected about Bazooka). A lot of people scream more realism, more deaths, yet there's no real showing of how deaths effect the other characters. It would seem to me that it's not really showing Real situations without showing Morning for it's characters........
|04-29-2009, 01:25 PM||#28|
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|04-29-2009, 02:57 PM||#29|
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I agree that SS could have survived, I've heard of a ninja technique to slow the functions of the body, and I also think that Zartan is still alive too as He is just too smart to not know a viable excape route, and there's no way if this were going to be a series that they'd kill off CC that quick. not exactly happy that they killed Bazooka but unfortunately someone had to go to further the story
|04-30-2009, 12:29 PM||#30|
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Roanoke, Virginia
Honestly, while i freakin' loved Resolute, i was of mixed feelings with regards to mortality in the show. I hated how they took out bludd. I've been a fan of his from way back, and it was kinda sad. Bazooka was fine by me, i had no real attachment to that character, and like a previous poster said, it illustrates that death CAN happen. I really love Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow but the ninja vendetta is a total stalemate. One of them had to die, and i think SS was the right candidate. Snake Eyes is arguably more popular and you don't have to pay a voice actor . Zartan was totally cool in this, probably my most favorite incarnation of him. And i dug that he was more the merc and less the biker king. I don't think he's dead, bullet to the back can be lethal but can just as easily not. As for Cobra Commander, i think he's totally alive as he should be. Also, like previously mentioned, the troopers should have hit more. Not necessarily killed joes, but definitely wounded some.
Still, make mine Resolute!!
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