|03-10-2009, 04:52 PM||#11|
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|03-10-2009, 04:53 PM||#12|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: So. Cal, the Inland Empire
I am a 34 year old fan of both the Sunbow series and the Marvel/Image/DDP run on GI Joe. I have all episodes of the original cartoon (as well as, unfortunately, the DIC run) and I cannot wait to see this show!
Now bring it on Hasbro!
|03-10-2009, 04:54 PM||#13|
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|03-10-2009, 05:23 PM||#14|
Join Date: May 2008
i understand where your coming from and i kind of agree but at the same time it would be cool to have it more grown up because in my joe world know one dies. so its all in good fun, it would be cool to see it from a adult point of view so im all good with it.
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|03-10-2009, 11:03 PM||#15|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Litchfield, ME
Wlecome, Writerwolf. You make some interesting points. However, I feel that Resolute is clearly aimed at the older collectors who grew up with the Sunbow cartoon and are looking for something a bit more sophisticated than lasers and parschutes. I think the movie will be more of an "all audinces" deal. If you read the comics, they are more "mature" than they've ever been, with Larry making references to our war in the Middle East and characters being killed after little more than an introduction. No, I don't feel Resolute will ruin Joe for me. As I said, it's a grown up cartoon for grown up fans.
|03-11-2009, 09:43 AM||#16|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful and balanced responses!
I guess what it comes down to for me is that while Joe is cool (no Peanuts-pun intended ;)) for all the reasons we now and love, I can't feel the same about actual-war, or even mostly-realistic-war.
I think it's Hasbro that's been using the term "Military Fantasy" in reference to the Joe line for a while now. THAT's the genre I like; even with a few Ninjas thrown in, Resolute feels more like "Military Fiction." If most, or even a big portion of the adult fanbase wants the later genre, so be it, but it's not for me.
Nice to know I'm NOT the only one, even if I'm in the minority
Thanks again for the gracious welcome and the thoughtful responses!
|03-11-2009, 09:54 AM||#17|
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Sarasota, FL
I understand both sides of this coin. I will say I can seperate my fuzzy goodness memories from what I watch today. However, I don't look forward to Resolute being TOO bloody or gruesome either.
I guess though when someone does die in the Joe comics or perhaps Resolute I take it with a grain of salt, because GI Joe is fantasy and more than once people have risen from the dead.
Having said that, GI Joe as a whole should remain more innocent for the kids as should all kids programs. If Resolute is really going to be as dark and gritty as some fear then maybe it should be a DVD release only, so kids are less likely to stumble upon it.
Though I will still watch it.
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|03-11-2009, 10:03 AM||#18|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Richmond, Virginia
I really think a "separate but equal" policy on the cartoons is the only way to go. Hasbro needs to do a kid friendly (Clone Wars type) cartoon for after school or Saturday morning and Resolute should be late night, gritty and everything that Hasbro promised at SDCC. Put it on Sci Fi or Spike or something like that. That's my opinion.
|03-11-2009, 10:11 AM||#19|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Northwood, NH
The kid-friendly cartoon is absolutely needed. They need it to hook the next generation. That's how most of us got into Joe in the first place, the comic or the cartoon. Resolute won't hook a new generation of fans at the ages that is needed (8+).
I want Resolute for me. But I think the franchise needs a new kid-friendly show.
|03-11-2009, 10:26 AM||#20|
Rhymin & Stealin
Join Date: Feb 2009
I will treat Resolute the same way I do other mature versions of childhood favorites. I keep them seperate from my memories as a kid.
Batman is a good example, I grew up reading pretty tame comics and reprints of the blue/grey tights Batman giving baddies a BIFF! and a BAFF! and watching reruns of the Adam West show. Then Tim Burton's Batman hit and this was the darkest I had ever seen my hero portrayed. It wasn't until many years later I got hold of The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, and The Killing Joke. These stories only made the characters appear more real to me, unlike Superman.
Highly mature and adult themed revisions of stuff we grew up with (especially with comics) are pretty common now, almost to the point of it being overkill in some cases (All Star Batman). Do these grim and extremely dark versions of my childhood heroes bother me personally? not really. I see it as getting to the heart and reality of the subject matter these characters are involved in. Batman is pretty much a psychotic vigilante and depending on which era you look at, you could argue he's a pedophile and closet homosexual to boot. While G.I. Joe is built around stories of bloody war, terrorism, loss, etc. (Snake Eyes alone has a pretty tragic back story).
I have no problem with their being kid friendly versions of these things, there was when I was a kid I don't see why there shouldn't be now. Resolute however, seems to be more aimed at taking what the original Marvel comics had and going a little darker and with the majority of us fans being all either in our 30's or pretty close to it I don't see the harm in having a brief series that doesn't pull any punches with the subject matter. I doubt we'll get a gore fest, that would be just silly but I do expect to see soldiers die and characters bleed.
Almost forgot! welcome to the Tank Writerwolf. A very interesting first post.
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