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04-20-2008, 06:06 PM | #351 |
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Well I like these pics as a stand alone military movie.
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04-20-2008, 06:23 PM | #352 |
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There are, however, different levels of success, and pound for pound, 25th Anniverary cannot touch ARAH in terms of sales volume, period.
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Your opinion on changes is what it is, but this particular comparison is all kinds of invalid on its face. Hasbro went into 25th Anniversary with a completely different target demographic in mind. If your point has any merit of which to speak, then show me a line of military-themed action figures that were concurrently available in retail stores with any of the less popular G.I. JOE lines and managed to post stronger sales numbers. If you cannot demonstrate this, then does not Occam's Razor strongly suggest that children's interests simply evolved with the times?
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In fact, it has even managed to turn people who had never collected toys as adults into enthusiastic collectors. Had the same mindset with which Hasbro approached ARAH (or even Sigma Six, for that matter) been applied, however, it would have been a financial disaster. I am sorry, but Occam's Razor doesn't mean ignoring everything inconvenient to my specious argument.
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Besides, three seasons of Batman Beyond and two seasons of a spinoff series completely debunk the notion that "drastic change" to a fictional universe is inherently doomed to fail.
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04-20-2008, 06:30 PM | #353 |
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The latter competes against more varieties of action figures than ever, more electronic items, and (especially) a video game market that dwarfs anything even conceivable in the 1980s. Yes, 25th Anniversary exceeded both retailer and manufacturer expectations, and it can certainly be called a success. There are, however, different levels of success, and pound for pound, 25th Anniverary cannot touch ARAH in terms of sales volume, period.
Look at Japan for example, toy collecting may not be mainstream but there is a far greater community of hardcore collectors than in America due largely to the fact that the idea of collecting and playing with toys isn't dishonorable to everybody. In America if you tell somebody you collect action figures you instantly get funny looks (although I usually tell people I play with them which gets FAR more awkward) and that's what needs to change. Young boys look up to older boys for inspiration; that's why marketing companies always create lines (fashion, music, movies, &tc) aimed at younger males while at the same time giving the illusion that it's being marketed to teenagers or older. I guarantee you that if commercials started airing again for the 25th line showing teenagers playing with action figures that young kids would soon jump on the band wagon and start irritating their parents again for toys. I think a lot of the reason that we don't have marketing like this is because of restrictions on what you can advertise towards children. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't England (or somewhere in Europe) recently ban advertisements geared towards children altogether? |
04-20-2008, 06:31 PM | #354 |
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This is a tactic I would expect from a third-grader. I am left with no choice other than to conclude that further correspondence with you is a waste of my time.
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04-20-2008, 06:33 PM | #355 |
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G.I. Joe is still a military sci-fi unit, but now instead of Jet packs and lasers being the sci-fi element, you get accelerator suits and pulse cannons. they are still battling Destro and Cobra, and the basic, most identifiable traits are still present. the change isn't as drastic as you claim, simply your acceptance of it. |
04-20-2008, 06:35 PM | #356 |
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What tactic? You are saying your argument lacks any merit. Either you believe that to be true or you didn't understand what the term specious means. Those were your words I was responding to.
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04-20-2008, 06:47 PM | #357 |
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Okay, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by interpreting what you'd said as a slightly more articulate version of I know you are, but what am I. If you honestly believe I was saying that my argument is specious, then your reading comprehension abilities failed you in this instance. Maybe you should give it another whirl.
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04-20-2008, 07:15 PM | #358 |
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johnny big guns, you are a funny guy.
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04-20-2008, 07:49 PM | #359 |
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I'm sorry but Storm Shadow, one of the most iconic figures of the ARAH, not being portrayed as a ninja but instead an auditioning member of Menudo or something out of the matrix is as drastic a change as one can think of. For the life of me I can't fathom how you can't understand that to be a drastic change. But you are certainly entitled to your opinions.
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04-20-2008, 07:50 PM | #360 |
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Hey JohnnyBigGuns and Compulsive Collector, Just what does the meaning of specious have to do with a single thing about the costumes in the GI Joe movie?
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