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08-03-2009, 12:18 PM | #21 |
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Look lets face facts and see this thing for what it is a movie no more no less,a movie based on some of the greatest source material out there,and thats the key word "based on".so just go see the dam thing and then decied you hate it.at least then you have first hand intel how bad or good it is.
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08-03-2009, 06:53 PM | #22 |
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However the peeps making this movie said that most of this stuff could be used in the military in the next 20 years...dosent sound too "phantasy" to me...Science fiction made the technology we have today...to call it a dungeons and dragins hobbit phantasy or a wet dream/pipe dream is a farce and a detrement to all of those bright minds that develop the things we use for the past 40-50-150yrs. The nuclear bomb was a "phantasy" and was purported to never work...try telling the people in Japan that it was a phantasy...then the world woke up...everything is not impossible ya know, improbable yes, not impossible. I put a little more stock into what GI JOE is about and the tech it shows off more so than the "phantasy" that star wars or star trek or Lord of The rings and Harry Potthead pawn off as phantasy....
Now my point was that GI Joe vs Cobra is a fantasy tale with some reality tidbits in it, since the person I quoted said it was maybe a fantasy in the 90's but not in the 80's I decided to pick two easily reconizable storylines from the 80's. (IE: the Mass Device mini series and the Comic tale dealing with Cobra linking multiple Terrordromes up and sending out a "hate" energy to create a war. Both sound like "fantasy tales" to me) Since you want to talk about technology as the fantasy side, yes, the filmmakers have said that the tech used in the movie could be in use in 20 years. The film makers did exactly what the design team for the 80's Joes did. They took military items in use now and other prototypes and added a fantasy spin on them. The Vamp? It's a modified Lamborghini Cheetah, The Buzz Boar? It's a fantasy take on the monowheel. The new Delta 6 Accelerator suit? It's a fantasy take on a similar exo suit that is being tested right now. As for putting more stock into GI Joe tech rather than the Fantasy tech from Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTR or Harry Potter, well other than magic (which isn't technology, BTW) LOTR and Harry Potter use Swords, last I checked, those have been used for a while now. Star Wars, Laser Guns and Light sabers, well one of those was used in GI Joe pretty heavily, and that brings us to Star Trek.....um you've heard of the Bluetooth, Cell phone and Jet Injectors right? |
08-03-2009, 07:01 PM | #23 |
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08-03-2009, 07:04 PM | #24 |
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The film is looking and sounding better with each clip and interview. A Joe fan since '83, I'm anxiously awaiting this Friday. MOD EDIT: Let's stop the name calling |
08-03-2009, 08:41 PM | #25 |
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First off, the word is Fantasy, Here's the first definition of the word: "imagination, esp. when extravagant and unrestrained"
Now my point was that GI Joe vs Cobra is a fantasy tale with some reality tidbits in it, since the person I quoted said it was maybe a fantasy in the 90's but not in the 80's I decided to pick two easily reconizable storylines from the 80's. (IE: the Mass Device mini series and the Comic tale dealing with Cobra linking multiple Terrordromes up and sending out a "hate" energy to create a war. Both sound like "fantasy tales" to me) Since you want to talk about technology as the fantasy side, yes, the filmmakers have said that the tech used in the movie could be in use in 20 years. The film makers did exactly what the design team for the 80's Joes did. They took military items in use now and other prototypes and added a fantasy spin on them. The Vamp? It's a modified Lamborghini Cheetah, The Buzz Boar? It's a fantasy take on the monowheel. The new Delta 6 Accelerator suit? It's a fantasy take on a similar exo suit that is being tested right now. As for putting more stock into GI Joe tech rather than the Fantasy tech from Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTR or Harry Potter, well other than magic (which isn't technology, BTW) LOTR and Harry Potter use Swords, last I checked, those have been used for a while now. Star Wars, Laser Guns and Light sabers, well one of those was used in GI Joe pretty heavily, and that brings us to Star Trek.....um you've heard of the Bluetooth, Cell phone and Jet Injectors right? There is only 3 points of phantasy in GI JOE that never really work for ROC 1: Zartan as a chameleon or troll or whatever he was purported to be so he could change his shape(also not likened in the movie because of phantasy concept however utilized in Predator to stunning effects), the fatal fluffies but with nanites they could justify any form or creature however it was to phantasy for them huh, and Cobra la a little to over the top and phantastical too *but there is a large number of people who beleive in aliens so what sthe big deal with a million year old snake race that pre-dates humans? New species are discovered every day so who knows what will happen in another million years...) Just to gawk it off as phantasy and just kids make belive as a reason why they did not do this or that is pretty shallow admission based on what they have already said. The human mind is capable of a lot of things and when a lot of people work together on something big things can happen and they have time resources funding and support. Where is all this don't knock till you see it happen or try it mentality everyone keeps touting around? Or is it just rational to use it when refering the movie instead of real world inginuity and human endevour?
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08-03-2009, 08:47 PM | #26 |
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08-03-2009, 09:09 PM | #27 |
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ROC is about the 11th or 12th movie he's been involved with. His career is pretty secure. And it sounds like he knows G.I. Joe pretty well. I hope this movie does great just so all the bickering fans can continue to be really ticked off while the rest of us enjoy the film. Amazing how many people just can't wait to see something before trashing it.
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08-03-2009, 09:24 PM | #28 |
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CrimsonGuard101, they are saying the storyline is a fantasy, not the technology. That's what I was debating with you, the storyline. When I talked about the Mass Device and the Terrordromes, I was meaning to get my idea across that the storylines concerning these items were fantasies.
Your arguement that it's hypocritical to say that the movie GI Joe is a fantasy movie but the technology in it could be real in 20 years is wrong. The movie Armageddon is a fantasy but all the technology in it is real, same can be said about many movies. What I'm trying to say is that I believe the movie makers are saying the movie is a fantasy because it's a fantastical or over the top tale that is based in reality. As for me twisting your words: Quote:
I put a little more stock into what GI JOE is about and the tech it shows off more so than the "phantasy" that star wars or star trek or Lord of The rings and Harry Potthead pawn off as phantasy....
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08-03-2009, 09:48 PM | #29 |
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No appoogy required. we are totally different and have totally different reads and undertsandings of what we read on here. Internet posts do not help with undertsanding fully somone's point of view. Good thing governments do not talk through the internet...
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