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08-31-2019, 05:17 AM | #591 |
Cobra Soldier
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Larry Hama's word is the law, he created Cobra, he created the dreadnocks, there would not be a SnakeEyes v2, v3, v4, with out him, no Arashikage ninja clan, no jinx, we would have had military teddy bear creatures in the 1984 wave if it wasn't for him putting his foot down, Gi joe would have ended in 84 with out him.
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08-31-2019, 07:28 AM | #592 |
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Ok, my unwanted 2 cents: I've read fanfic (or, I should say, I've really tried to read it), I've also seen film treatments of comic projects that were 100% faithful to the source material, and you know what? It's shit. All of it. Some nerd's fanfic is usually horrible to anyone outside of the proclivities of a few dozen like-minded geeks, and direct adaptations of comic stories just don't translate to film well. The reason "Hollywood" changes stuff is because it needs to work on film, first and foremost, and because it has to appeal to an audience broader than just toy/comic nerds. That's a fact. Everyone has an opinion, and that's fine, but thinking your opinion is somehow more valid than the rest of the great ignorant unwashed is just silly. Pop culture nerds such as ourselves have to realize the rest of the world doesn't like what we like to the extent we like it, and that they're not so beholden to childhood nostalgia/decades worth of internalization. We need to have some perspective on this or we just end up being sterotyped as whiny basement-dwellers.
As far as race-changing goes...I don't give a shit. These are made-up characters in a made-up world, and however they're portrayed on film by whomever doesn't effect my life at all. I got more important shit to do. more important people to concentrate on and more important stuff to think about. Point is, this shit isn't important. We already had these Hollywood know-it-alls create their own vision of a G.I.Joe movie to appeal to the "next generation", and what did we get? A turd burger of massive proportions that appealed to absolutely no one. How about giving a faithful adaptation a try this time? Comic book/toy nerds have the lowest self esteem ever. They think their interests are somehow inherently inferior to some rando who collects stamps and piggy banks. No one whips themselves on the street as willingly as the comic book geek. In Hisstank we get a constant string of self-hating dudes who can't wait to fall on their sword, practically begging for toys and adaptations they'd even hate themselves, just in the hopes of serving some imaginary "next generation". Hey, guess what? We're allowed to like what we want, and to want to see what we want to see. On the subject on fanfic, maybe the gulf between pro creators and fan works used to be meaningful back in the day, but it certainly isn't now. We've seen canon works that are literally worse than the worst G.I.Joe fanfic ever made. YKWITA.
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08-31-2019, 10:26 AM | #593 |
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And here I am still waiting on a stamp and piggy bank movie.
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08-31-2019, 04:28 PM | #594 |
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agreed. the problem in Hollywood right now is that they seem unwilling to strike any balance, the Star Wars franchise and that horrible Ghostbusters reboot being the biggest examples I can think of immediately. there's a mentality that in order to bring on the younger gen, they have to give the finger to those that made the franchise a success in the first place, despite the fact that there is a very definitive middle road.
off subject: call me an idiot, or uniformed, but I've never seen those before, what are they? they have the feel of the 97-98 run. are they concepts for that line? if so, they should have gone with those. I actually liked that line a lot, warts and all, but those are really cool. and get yer joes back out of the closet;) |
08-31-2019, 04:35 PM | #595 |
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You mention Star Wars. I think their failure in the eyes of the older fans really resulted from no captain at the helm of the bigger ship. They let directors do what they want and no one really gave them a story framework to stay within. They needed a George Lucas or Kevin Feige to say here is where we start, where we are going and how will get there.
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08-31-2019, 05:43 PM | #596 |
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Not true, Kathleen Kennedy was hand picked by GL to take over Lucasfilm when Disney took over. She had been with the company for years, and everyone thought it would be in good hands. But then TLJ came out and her and Johnson took the franchise far left with the SJW bullshit, she was put on the hot seat. and thats why after Solo weve had to wait until this Dec. for the next movie.
We probably agree more then disagree. But the Fact is if a competent creative person who cared about SW property was running the ship for the trilogy, a director would not have been allowed to “go far left with SJW bullshit”. KK should be counting beans and negotiating contracts not making creative decisions for the movies. She should have put a writer or storyteller in charge of the whole trilogy. Let that person give the directors the synopsis and treatments and make them follow it. If that causes a big name like JJ to drop out, who cares. How many big name directors does Marvel use? Barely any if none at all. Why? Because it Feige’s show and you have to follow his orders. Last edited by Mainframe77; 08-31-2019 at 05:53 PM.. |
08-31-2019, 06:24 PM | #597 |
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I agree that not even having a general outline for the new trilogy is moronic, to say the least. This pass the ball shit is awful. After all, if you don’t have a story to tell, what are you doing?
Joe, on the other hand can work a little better in the fly
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08-31-2019, 08:01 PM | #598 |
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they do know Snake Eyes is a blonde haired blue eyed white man right?.......I think if Black Panther was played by Jared Leto their would be rioting and murder.
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08-31-2019, 11:24 PM | #599 |
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I disagree. KK is in charge of Lucasfilm. She is an exec not creative. That’s the problem. Hello McFly! I know KK was handpicked but her first major mistake was putting JJ in charge for one movie. Then Rian. Then Colin. Then Colin out. JJ Back in. Let’s not even start on the standalone movies. She should have put someone in charge of overseeing the sequel trilogy. Like Dave Filoni, who learned storytelling at the feet of the master George. Then you’d have 3 movies that have a beginning, middle and an end. Not a patchwork mess of trying to undo what the guy before them did. KK is an exec, she is not a creative. Big mistake by Disney and her. I’m surprised she still has a job. And don’t tell me “oh they made a lot of money.” Because if things were all roses, they would NOT have scrapped all their planned movies and not had revolving doors of directors. I’m not saying they are “going out of business”, but they hurt their brand with bad decisions and her Disney bosses had to rein her in (by putting all movies on hold except GoT producers trilogy).
We probably agree more then disagree. But the Fact is if a competent creative person who cared about SW property was running the ship for the trilogy, a director would not have been allowed to “go far left with SJW bullshit”. KK should be counting beans and negotiating contracts not making creative decisions for the movies. She should have put a writer or storyteller in charge of the whole trilogy. Let that person give the directors the synopsis and treatments and make them follow it. If that causes a big name like JJ to drop out, who cares. How many big name directors does Marvel use? Barely any if none at all. Why? Because it Feige’s show and you have to follow his orders.
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09-01-2019, 12:33 AM | #600 |
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I loved the Force Awakens, I loved Rey, I was really excited to see where they would take her...not so mutch now, I just want it over now.
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