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08-10-2017, 06:32 PM | #101 |
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I have been hoping, ever since I first saw it, for a GI JOE cartoon in the same vein as BatMan:TAS. Great stories and great characters. A classic clean animation style, turning Larry Hama comic stories into animated masterpieces! Gee..I hope I didn't build that up to much.
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08-10-2017, 06:42 PM | #102 |
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Last I checked, people like superhero movies that have characters wearing costumes that basically look like their comic book costumes and that basically adapt the same storylines. Why in the world should G.I. Joe take a difference approach than has worked for the MCU and just this year on the DC side Wonder Woman? Also, the Disney live-action movies like Beauty and the Beast basically copied the cartoon exactly and is the #1 movie of the year so far. As soon as these jackhole executives think they have to "change" or "fix" the original source material we get crap no one likes.
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08-10-2017, 07:29 PM | #103 |
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Last I checked, people like superhero movies that have characters wearing costumes that basically look like their comic book costumes and that basically adapt the same storylines. Why in the world should G.I. Joe take a difference approach than has worked for the MCU and just this year on the DC side Wonder Woman? Also, the Disney live-action movies like Beauty and the Beast basically copied the cartoon exactly and is the #1 movie of the year so far. As soon as these jackhole executives think they have to "change" or "fix" the original source material we get crap no one likes.
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08-10-2017, 08:08 PM | #104 |
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To them (not all but most) Certain things are for kids and ridiculous. They cannot fathom a real person in a red and blue set of tights fighting a guy in a purple set of tights with a bald head on the streets. To them that is childish. These are people that think their heroes like Wolverine need to look and dress like adults and be fashionable, dress for success. All they see is "kid's stuff" when they look at Flint, with his beret, shotgun and grenades. or Duke in his brown shirt green pants and binoculars. There is this huge acceptance of the rite of passage where things childish in nature are supposed to be left behind and you become an adult. To embrace such things when you are an adult is not looked upon favorably in higher social circles. Even though if you look at the fashions of the social elite over hundreds of years... anyway it is just how most people think. I know someone in his seventies who can't watch sci fi. If it is not real and tangible outside of television, he has a hard time identifying wth the fiction. I bet someone could write an essay on how and why we choose to dress the way we dress, but in America, I am guessing that certain clothing (like Red Carpet runway dresses) are status symbols. It is a myth of course but a powerful one.
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08-10-2017, 10:43 PM | #105 |
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They should just modernize the arah franchise and cater to the hardcore fans. If we love it the general audience will love it. Either a movie or a new cartoon series.
They already tried to change it up with Roc and Renegades and both were failures. Dance with those that brought you to the dance. ARAH And what are we left with? A product line no retailer will touch, movies just successful enough not to abandon, and a shrinking fandom. The fandom is a FRACTION of what it was in 2007, much less in 2002. I'm not even sure it is fair to even criticize Renegades THAT much given much of its promotional efforts and its own product line were side lined so that collectors could get Pursuit of Cobra. Quote:
I really believe the Rescue Heroes cartoon appealed to all audiences.
My father (Birdman Generation) and I (80s Joe fan) like it with just a few episodes that we watched... As a matter of fact Kirk Bozigian mentioned he worked on that line of Rescue Heroes... A new GI Joe cartoon like that will appeal to kids immensely... I think an adventure series in a similar mold would be a better fit to Joe, and give it its own identity and not be labeled a Rescue Bots without the Transformers.
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08-11-2017, 04:10 PM | #106 |
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08-11-2017, 04:29 PM | #107 |
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Because that has worked SO well these past 10 years. Even Rise of Cobra, movie quality and designs aside, still stayed pretty collector friendly with an extensive cast of "just off screen" characters, top tier articulation and accessories with unique card art and stands. "We" loved Resolute, yet it barely made a blip in 2009, and is nigh forgotten in 2017 even as similar projects (Transformers over at Machina) garner significant media attention. The market has been largely indifferent to the product line, despite being collector friendly for a majority of the last decade.
And what are we left with? A product line no retailer will touch, movies just successful enough not to abandon, and a shrinking fandom. The fandom is a FRACTION of what it was in 2007, much less in 2002. I'm not even sure it is fair to even criticize Renegades THAT much given much of its promotional efforts and its own product line were side lined so that collectors could get Pursuit of Cobra. The big reason I haven't been advocating that is because I feel that it would be stepping on Rescue Bots toes a bit. And Rescue Bots has quite a bit more cachet with consumers at this stage. I think an adventure series in a similar mold would be a better fit to Joe, and give it its own identity and not be labeled a Rescue Bots without the Transformers.
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08-11-2017, 05:36 PM | #108 |
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How about they step away from cartoons and action figures/toys and rebuild gi joe with like a live action series(netflix?) that builds characters and gets people more familiar with names like snake eyes and duke. All the movies seemed too rushed. It could start off with a main character probably snake eyes or duke in their teenage years heading to join the military/college. Build their character traits and back stories. Add characters in little by little.
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08-11-2017, 06:45 PM | #109 |
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How about they step away from cartoons and action figures/toys and rebuild gi joe with like a live action series(netflix?) that builds characters and gets people more familiar with names like snake eyes and duke. All the movies seemed too rushed. It could start off with a main character probably snake eyes or duke in their teenage years heading to join the military/college. Build their character traits and back stories. Add characters in little by little.
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08-11-2017, 07:42 PM | #110 |
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I think a live-action series would demand too high of a budget to be easily sustainable. The concept is too reliant on large-scale set-pieces, battles, and vehicles. Sets, costumes, special effects, etc. would all require a lot of money. You'd have to fill in many of the gaps with CG, and I doubt the CG quality would live up to the practical effects. On the other hand, I think having a series using nothing but CG could work. Good visual direction could compensate for lack of high-end detail, and the right art style could also appeal to both kids and adults. I mean, hell, look at the Starship Troopers: Roughnecks CG cartoon from all the way back in 1999; surely Joe could pull off something even better nearly 20 years later.
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