|04-15-2015, 09:45 PM||#1|
Overlord of Evil
Join Date: Jun 2003
G.I. Joe State of the Union JoeCon 2015 Edition
G.I. Joe State of the Union JoeCon 2015 Edition - HissTank.com
My take on the future of the brand. It's a little long but worth the read.
|04-15-2015, 09:52 PM||#2|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Charleston SC
If the club is going to be the main outlet for ARAH then I guess it's finally time to join. I'm curious as to how they will decide on what new products to release. I like how Matty Collector utilized a pre-order goal system. Might be good to try that out.
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|04-15-2015, 10:04 PM||#3|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Swabbin' with Shippy
Well the bit about doubling down on the kid focus has me excited and hopeful. This was the sort of news, or hints, I most wanted to hear from JoeCon.
Yes, let the Club carry on the Modern Era project of updates. Hasbro's done pretty much all it can with that Era. Time to move on.
NEW 50th added, plus MORE goodies coming...
Maybe even a few GIVEAWAYS!
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|04-15-2015, 10:18 PM||#4|
Join Date: Nov 2013
This certainly would make sense as to why we got so many arah figures from FSS 3 and 4.
|04-15-2015, 10:24 PM||#5|
ARC Trooper Commander
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Couldn't agree more. Although I hate to say it, but 5POA could be more prevalent to attract kids. I wish the show isn't like the new TF show. I enjoyed Renegades a lot, and that Coyote would be sweet to get!
|04-15-2015, 10:37 PM||#6|
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley of Salt, State of Ennui, USA
I have a feeling this is where I finally unass this horse. A very large part of the fun for me has always been reliving a bit of my childhood through my collecting, and that means these toys must remain toys. To me, these always have been, and always will be, toys. The club pricing and method of procurement makes them "collectibles." I have no interest in collectibles. I don't do memberships. I don't do clubs. I don't do Hummels or Franklin Mint or "Rare Edition" book clubs either. It just ain't me. Besides, I've never cared much for any of the club's offerings, but I freely admit my view of them could be heavily skewed by the price and whole collectible-thing. So, while I understand and have no intrinsic problem with the club or the pricing or the method of procurement (as collectibles), it just isn't for me.
Having said that, I'm genuinely happy Hasbro will be re-thinking the property for kids first and I'm also glad you old-timers will have the club to feed your brand of nostalgic need. I may not be a super-fan or even an active participant in the brand anymore, but I still have a soft spot for it and I like the idea of it continuing on to enthrall future generations. Just as it's time I finally swing the rest of my leg over the pommel, it's probably time Hasbro puts our tired old nag out to pasture. The future's unwritten...I hope Hasbro fills a few pages of it with wonderful new chapters for G.I. Joe.
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|04-15-2015, 10:54 PM||#7|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: tampa fl
I see great things to come with Gi Joe for both Kids and collectors. This is great news and I'm very happy to here that Hasbro is going to try and get the kids back in to this. I love gi Joe and can't wait to see what Hasbro has to offer.
|04-15-2015, 11:02 PM||#8|
Join Date: Jun 2013
If it's true that Hasbro is moving away from ARAH, then, thank you. It's about time the brand moves forward and into the future instead of being stuck in the past.
I like diversity in my GI Joe, I won't read comics but I would love a fun kids show to watch with my son. I think too much of our GI Joe universe is too serious to bring in the younger crowd. I support anything to bring in more fans.
|04-15-2015, 11:05 PM||#9|
Join Date: Jun 2008
I'm not sure the dividing line is going to be that cut and dry between the club's lines and Hasbro's lines. It just seems for whatever reason the Hasbro designers didn't look at any unmade ARAH characters for this year's lineup and seem a little reluctant to dig into characters who haven't already been released, although this will be the first retail release of Chuckles since 1987. The SDCC item clearly is aimed at collectors because of its venue, but all it does is add repaints that look indistinguishable from this year's retail releases. Bit of a difference from the days of Jinx and Slaughter. At the same time, they're aiming all of the repacks this year directly at what they think collectors are hunting for. The Blowtorch and Croc are also a collector grail of sorts. And Chuckles is based on IDW, a definite nod to collectors.
The next FSS has 4 or 5 ARAH figures that could've made sense as retail releases, but that's still not a majority. And really only Pathfinder and Law and Order would've been slam-dunks at retail. Given the past FSSes, that's on par with what they've been doing. It's even less heavy hitters than FSS 3 and on par with FSS 2. The club wouldn't have wanted to make the FSS completely obscure, so they would've argued they needed some semi-prominent characters even though the DIC era is about the only place they have left to look for prominence. Billy and Pythona simply would never have made it at retail no matter the collector interest.
I definitely could see the kid product and collector product existing side-by-side at retail, like the Marvel mashers vs. the Legends.
I mentioned the Lego movie to Mark and asked him if they'd ever do G.I. Joe animation that animated the figures the same way. He kind of looked surprised and then said there's always Robot Chicken. I think it's a good idea for animation though. Make a solid line of figures and then animate them in toy form in more kid-focused adventures that show off what the toys can do. I don't know if it's affordable on a TV budget or not, but it seems like it would be fun to watch for adults too. And it would be much more fun than the movies, which are like trying to market a toy line to Die Hard, Mission Impossible or James Bond. The Joe movies are not made as the kind of movies that translate well into toys. If they kept all the color to the characters the way the Marvel movies do, then maybe, but the producers don't seem interested in that at all. The red ninja scene was the most toyetic scene in the movie, and Hasbro didn't even get that ninja figure out.
Mark did also say that the delay of Retaliation was devastating to the brand and they still haven't recovered from it. I think the movies have really been solely responsible for destroying a promising toy line relaunch at retail. They've done nothing but damage to the brand, as well as filling our collection with lots of crappy toys. It'd really be better if they had performed so poorly that there were no plans to make another one. Then maybe Hasbro would realize they need to step up a different campaign into high gear instead of constantly putting a real marketing push on hold for the next movie.
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|04-15-2015, 11:09 PM||#10|
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Surrey, Canada
I live in Canada , so buying anything from the club tends to cost a foretune....not in exchange(which is currently bad), but in shipping costs. I have found it easier to buy the FSS I have( a very selective few...by cost), through online sales.
As for the toyline, I am OK for it going towards the kids( I was one when I loved/love this toyline). So what if we will be more selective about what GI Joe toys we will buy, as long as we are given an option at all.
With the GI Joe comic books, I have several points against IDW's format of publishing.
1) They print their comics in Korea...??? This pisses me off to NOOOO end...as I live in a country that has a slightly troubled logging industry( as I'm sure the USA has troubles with as well). We also have many people out of quality work in the last decade, a better printing industry might help the overall economy with a small shot in the arm. Seems to me if you market something towards a Western world market...you would have a better time selling stuff to the western world market, if you would keep the dollars circulating in the same said market.
I refuse to buy any IDW product on these grounds, and I did buy the 1st ten issues of the GI Joe A.R.A.H. larry Hama book untill I reaad where they were published( I even think I may have enjoyed them).
2) IDW publishes way too many joe books at one time. I have a decent regular job, but that doesn't mean I can or want to buy 3 GI Joe books a month. If they put out 1 book a month, and combined the stories from 3 separate storylines in 1 book, maybe it would be worth buying...maybe, if for me, the 1st IDW qualm didn't exsist. Heck, to stress my point...I am a way bigger Deadpool fan than I am of GI Joe( which I love to death), and even with Deadpool, I buy just 1 of his books per month( and those are generally way better than any of the GI Joe books).
3) I was going to go into another, but the 1st 2 rants against IDW have sapped my legermain abilities for now
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