|03-25-2009, 03:03 PM||#181|
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Originally: Huntington Beach, CA
Ok this is the final nail in the coffin for me. I am sick of Hollywood changing things that do not need to be changed just because they can. I have tried to have a wait and see atitude but with every new thing I see it just gets worse. There is only so many times you can be spit in the face before you tell them to fuck off. Well Summers and Paramount and to a lesser extent Hasbro for not standing up to this like you did for Optimus in TF; FUCK OFF!
That's it. Enjoy the bath you are going to take on this movie when it bombs. It saddens me that you have so little respect for those of us that got you to this point, or even those that were fans when they were kids and are seeing the trailers and saying WTF? I just hope you learn from this mistake.
Last edited by Shin-Gouki; 03-25-2009 at 04:32 PM..
|03-25-2009, 03:04 PM||#182|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
Ebay figure is up to $41 already...maybe the guy will get some loose ones in...
|03-25-2009, 03:06 PM||#183|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fairfax Va
Let me say about this new look of the Commander.
the file card says he had a disfigured face for the movie just like snake eyes has in the comics and not mentioned in the cartoons.
this is the new cobra commander in the new joe continuity for the live action gijoe movie about the cobra rises on the big screen (the rise of cobra).
we can remember the cobra commander as a 1983 action figure w/helmet and mask and seen in the comics of marvel runs of gijoe, the cartoons by sunbow.
there are other cobra commanders in other joe continuities are
joe vs. cobra cartoons on dvds series
gi joe reloaded comics
gijoe and the transformers
gijoe resolute cartoons
gi joe sigma six era
gi joe IDW comics
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|03-25-2009, 03:07 PM||#184|
Join Date: Jul 2008
The body mold is decent. The jacket will limit articulation of the figure. He head design is poor and unappealing. It's like the designers wondered how they could pull off an Anakin Skywalker / Vader burnt face with the transparency effect of a fishbowl.
|03-25-2009, 03:09 PM||#185|
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Join Date: May 2008
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This is not even reminiscent of Cobra Commander/ What a horrible design, horrible motive for design, all around horrible Cobra Commander. He looks like a damn He-Man villain.
|03-25-2009, 03:09 PM||#186|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Back in Texas for good!! Thank God.
I'll Buy one, but WTF was Hasbro Thinking ?! Why in Gods name would you ruin a Classic !!
|03-25-2009, 03:10 PM||#187|
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: So. FL
NO, I said I can even deal with version of SE I decribed. That does NOT mean that I like it either, and regardless, as I said, this moive CC is even a stretch from that (the SE I am talking about).
I don't like that version of SE either b/c I think it looks like crap too, but AT LEAST it is a little truer to SE than this movie CC is to CC.
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|03-25-2009, 03:11 PM||#188|
So much drama 'n the LBCs
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Alright class, settle down.
Aside from 20 pages of banter about toast, vaseline, and Gunslinger and Hicks having a pissing contest that neither will back down from, most people tend to hate this as much as they do anything from the rest of the film.
The figure looks exactly like I expected it to, based off what the Combat Heroes figure/card art looked like. And that's terrible.
Look, you can't just take an iconic character like Megatron or Cobra Commander and recreate them completely so that they look NOTHING like the source material, and people not be up in arms about them. Especially obsessive fans, at that, like ourselves.
Okay, so the film is for a new audience. I'm not arguing that one bit. But for the fans that have kept this series alive for so long and is the essential reason that the film is being made in the first place, I think they have a right to look at something completely unrecognizable and donate a proper "WTF?"
Movie Megatron had not one element connecting him to the classic look. While obviously a new design for the film, Prime retained many elements that kept him connected to his original self, despite tacky flames painted on him. Red/blue color palette, faceplate, similar helmet design, and Peter Cullen voiced him. He turned into a semi truck. Megatron was silver, that was it. Maybe his head had a similar shape, depending on how you squint at it. The voice sounded okay, a raspy voice is a raspy voice when you can barely hear it over clanging metal and you're focusing on figuring out which jumbled robotic mess is what character anyways. They couldn't even work in his bigass arm cannon, or any sort of vehicle mode that makes sense. Hell, even what I've seen of the TF2 designs, he at least has a new big arm, but it looks like the arm is only "big" because they made his other arm T-Rex-sized in proportion. He turns into a tank, or something like a tank, but it's all "Cybertron" mode still and looks like a tinsel jumble.
As far as "Cobra Commander", I dislike the helmet, but that's the tip of the iceberg. What the hell is he wearing for a shirt? Some crazy "future"-design, mechano-nano-armor bullshit? And then let's throw a Matrix-y trench coat on top of that to add a badass factor.
If they want to go the "deformed scientist", ex-military route, that's fine by me. It explains why he wears a mask (other than to hide his identity) and makes the villain a dangerous one. He's not only brilliant in the lab, but he's deadly on the battle field as well. I don't see that "injector" as much of a weapon, but if it is used in the film as a plot element, then it's a cool throw-in at least. But other than "masked villain", there is nothing about him that says Cobra Commander to me, unless I see the name on the toy. And if I saw this without knowing what it was, I'd think "repack!"
When I saw Hellboy in theatres, I thought that the design of Kroenen would be a good starting point for a film CC. And unlike this movie design, or the other CC designs where you can see his eyes, I prefer not seeing them one bit. I think it makes him more menacing to know he's looking at you, but you can't see anything staring back. And his helmeted design seemed to work on film. Take off the hat and put a CC-ish or Magneto-ish helmet on him, on top of the face mask, and I think we're a lot closer to a Cobra Commander that I can recognize.
I love the classic hooded look. As a kid, I preferred it over all the other designs. I agree with what the previous poster said about the Klan hood though... It's a BS argument to say it looks too much like the Klan. Why not look like the Klan? It is an evil organization, and is downright creepy. And CC is a bad guy, which is exactly why the hooded comparison is fitting, not going against what they're striving for. You have no idea who is behind the hood. The thing I don't like about the hood, is one, it would probably film weird, and two, you can still see the eyes.
If anyone took the time to read this, comment away. If not, continue to talk about toast and vaseline and watch slinger and hicks continue to dish it out.
Last edited by Mandingo Rex; 03-25-2009 at 03:21 PM..
|03-25-2009, 03:14 PM||#189|
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: St Louis, MO
I think it's a chicken-shit reason to abandon an effective design. The only reason they redesigned it was the same reason they made the cartoon in the 80s... to sell toys. The design is much flashier and fresher. It'll sell to 6-10 year olds much better. And let's face it, with video games and less martial toys becoming popular with more "enlightened" parents, GI Joe needs all the flash it can get.
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|03-25-2009, 03:16 PM||#190|
Join Date: Jul 2007
I don't mind so much that they did not go with the classic battle mask or hooded look; just wish they had come up with something better looking than this.
Maybe Snake Eyes and Cobra Commander were disfigured in the same accident? Awww how sweet....
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