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12-20-2007, 02:12 PM
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| | Cobra Soldier Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 53 | Let me clarify by saying that I am not against "modernizing" the franchise, much the way that was done with X-Men and Spider-Man.
Their changes made sense, but they didn't suddenly make Spidey an inner-city minority or Wolverine a walking porcupine.
These properties have survived and thrived for 25 + years for a reason. I just don't want to see too much of what made them done away with. | 
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12-20-2007, 02:22 PM
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| | Crimson Guard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,208 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by WildWeasel There are generally two kinds of movies, ones of substance and ones that entertain (the rariety are those of both). Can G.I. Joe be something of "substance"? Not likely. But it certainly can be entertaining. That is important. If it lacks that, then there will be no sequal and all this bitching is pointless. | I think Chris Nolan managed to find balance with Batman Begins. I think Bryan Singer did the same with X2, and Guillermo del Toro has done it consistently with Blade II, Hellboy, and El Laberinto del fauno. Bruce Timm's team was even doing it in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. There's no reason why there can't be balance in this project.
I'm not asking for something that will get Academy Award nominations, just something more than Michael Bay provides, you know? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Big Country There are plenty of characters in the Joe mythology that can be used if they want to give parts to other nationalities to add 'PC flavor'. There's no need to change established characters. | As long as the portrayal is true to the characters, I don't think any of that other stuff is much of a concern. As long as Breaker is still Breaker, I'll be okay with his accent and appearance not totally matching.
He better blow bubbles, though. ;) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Big Country THIS is why I compared it to the Bay TF "film".
Megatron was a pile of wlking parts, Starscream had no personality, Jazz ('sup bitches?), Bumblebee pissing on somebody. | I couldn't agree more. | |
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12-20-2007, 02:29 PM
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| | Cobra Soldier Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 53 | Damn right about the bubble gum!
I also meant to mention Nolan's Batman films as another example of a modernized telling done correctly. | |
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12-20-2007, 02:32 PM
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| | Crimson Guard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,208 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Big Country Damn right about the bubble gum! | 
That, to me, is what defines Breaker. As long as they have him blow a few bubbles, even in the background where most casual viewers wouldn't notice it, I'll be happy with Breaker.
I still think Larry Hama should have been hired as a consultant to help nail down the essence of these characters. | |
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12-20-2007, 02:36 PM
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| | Cobra Soldier Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 53 | Since Hama, oh, I don't know, CREATED THEM ALL!!!!
Yeah, that would have been nice. | |
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12-20-2007, 02:38 PM
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| | Cobra Soldier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 99 | First Post Yeah!
I actually started a Roadblock/Heavy Duty thread at yojoe.com.
I am pretty sure there is a legal reason. That is why when the T-Crotch New Sculpts started up we got Heavy Duty and why when Sigma 6 started there was Heavy Duty. I don't know what it is and I can't find a link, but it seemed like it was along the lines of "Agent" Scarlett, "General Abernathy", "Sgt" Flash.
I think Hasbro knows Roadblock is more popular. He was in the 25th 5 pack...I just think there is something legal going on...
I could be wrong... | |
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12-20-2007, 02:40 PM
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| | Crimson Guard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,208 | If Hasbro has lost out on the trademark protection for Roadblock, though, they couldn't have released him (twice) this year. The other characters you mentioned had their names altered in some way, but Roadblock didn't. | |
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12-20-2007, 03:59 PM
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| | Filthy Traitor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Close your mouth, son. The flies'll get in. Posts: 785 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector The character was much better in the comics.
Or better yet, don't lower yourself to the Michael Bay fan's level, those who accept style over substance. | Do I know you? Maybe from another board?
Well said btw.
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12-20-2007, 04:00 PM
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| | Filthy Traitor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Close your mouth, son. The flies'll get in. Posts: 785 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector
That, to me, is what defines Breaker. As long as they have him blow a few bubbles, even in the background where most casual viewers wouldn't notice it, I'll be happy with Breaker.
I still think Larry Hama should have been hired as a consultant to help nail down the essence of these characters. | Did you get word that he wasn't? Did it fall through?
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12-20-2007, 04:01 PM
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| | Filthy Traitor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Close your mouth, son. The flies'll get in. Posts: 785 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector I think Chris Nolan managed to find balance with Batman Begins. I think Bryan Singer did the same with X2, and Guillermo del Toro has done it consistently with Blade II, Hellboy, and El Laberinto del fauno. Bruce Timm's team was even doing it in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. There's no reason why there can't be balance in this project.
I'm not asking for something that will get Academy Award nominations, just something more than Michael Bay provides, you know?
As long as the portrayal is true to the characters, I don't think any of that other stuff is much of a concern. As long as Breaker is still Breaker, I'll be okay with his accent and appearance not totally matching.
He better blow bubbles, though. ;)
I couldn't agree more. | Tennessee?
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