Cobra Trooper Card Variant? |
12-09-2007, 06:45 PM
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| | REJECTED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: O-hell o Posts: 527 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector I don't know what kind of printing your former employer was doing, but that doesn't even begin to cover all processes. In engraving, you run one color at a time. In thermography, you run two colors at a time. The cards in question are printed using either six-color, eight-color, or ten-color offset presses with UV-coating capability. If these feel any differently to the touch, it's more than likely an issue with the UV coating. If not, it was probably an issue with the wipe on the press. Either way, it's not a variant. | Yeah well excuse me for not going into extreme detail and thus boring the living hell out of everyone. However the presses I worked on printed one color at a time. Yes the plate was engraved for each of the four colors I mentioned in the previous post. BTW I worked for quiet a few printing companies all of which printing everything from phone books (both black and white and color), color TRU ads, brochures and as well as card stock. So IMO it seems there was an issue with the ink. But hey I'm only basing this off of 5 years experience working days at one nights at the other (I really hated my ex wife) so I really don't know what I'm talking about. Oh well there goes that Apprenticeship.
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12-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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| | Crimson Guard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,208 | I worked in the printing industry for three years myself, and these cards aren't run on four-color presses. |
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12-09-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector I worked in the printing industry for three years myself, and these cards aren't run on four-color presses. | Whatever in your opinion I don't know jack. As far as I'm concerned I'm done with this post. So the masses can believe whatever they want. Either way it's not a variant and shouldn't be considered as one. Just my 2 cents. |
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12-09-2007, 07:27 PM
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| | Cobra hates the paparazzi Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 4,987 | Thus concludes the printer company employees debate
As for the cards, I don't know what would make the colors different, but I have to agree with Blowtorch that it doesn't make it a variant. Factory error perhaps or maybe because of a change in card stock, who knows.
Also just noticed that all the ones on the right side don't have a black outline around the word "COBRA" |
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12-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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| | Randy of the Allspark Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 40 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Shogi Also just noticed that all the ones on the right side don't have a black outline around the word "COBRA" | To me that would constitute a variation and not simply a printing error. I'm not sure i mentioned this, but of the 11 I received this week 4 are like the one on the left and 7 are like the one on the right.
Randy |
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12-09-2007, 08:13 PM
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| | Cobra hates the paparazzi Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 4,987 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy To me that would constitute a variation and not simply a printing error. I'm not sure i mentioned this, but of the 11 I received this week 4 are like the one on the left and 7 are like the one on the right.
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Unless someone forgot to outline "Cobra" ;)
Like I said, I have no idea how these are made, so after noticing the un-outlined "Cobra" All I can say is it could be an error or it could ba a variant
There's the new Hasbro Q&A tomorrow, someone could ask them about this |
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12-09-2007, 09:19 PM
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| | Crimson Guard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,208 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Shogi Also just noticed that all the ones on the right side don't have a black outline around the word "COBRA" | Good eye. It means that, for whatever reason, different plates were used. It's likely that one was left from the initial run and one was from a new batch. If two presses ran the same job simultaneously, or if the original ended up being misplaced between orders, it's entirely possible that a second plate was produced from an older file. It's a printing error.
The date stamp on the card, by the way, has nothing to do with the printing. |
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12-10-2007, 11:20 PM
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| | Randy of the Allspark Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 40 | A widespread printing error, as the 11 I have 7 are the ones without the outline. I would call that a variant, as I imagine the rest from this point on will probably be the darker one without the outline while the Wave 2 version and some of the Wave 3 were the lighter one with the outline.
Randy |
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