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04-07-2008, 12:53 AM | #1 |
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Read the script. Wish I hadn't. Went over every word. Wish I hadn't. Tried to see if there were silver lining. Wish I hadn't.
Now, I won't give anything major away, but I was both delighted and disgusted with the Joe script. Good points- Ripcord isn't nearly as obnixious (on paper) as some of us fear. Whether Wayans changes that remains to be seen. There's lots of sideplots, and if GI JOe has anything, it's side plots. The Doctor, aka, CC, is extremely intelligent and knows what he's doing. The armor, troops, weapons and the like sound great. The Accelerator suits sound plausable, and not any "lazers" to be seen. All sci-fi weapons are not only plausible, possible and understandable, but most are actually being designed and researched today. Great moments that will make people go- DAMN. Duke and Baroness relationship is interesteing at least. Snake Eyes is indeed, BAD ASS. There is much room for things to be added to the various storylines, such as the Commander, SE Vs SS (yeah, their final battle is INCREDIBLE, and if done right, seriously, forget Obi Wan Vs Anakin). Unfortunately, as far as I'M concerned, the final blow is kinda a let down, SE talks immediately afterwards, and there are flashbacks peppered throughout the sequence that kinda break up the action. Lots of explosions. The bad guys are credible, and competent. That's all I'll say, as I'd rather not get yelled at by Paramount, lol. Since I don't want to get in twubble, I won't reveal exactly what kind, but according to what I read, expect a VERY popular troop builder type to show up... You know those endings that make you go- "What?!?!? No way... And no we have to wait to find out what happens.... LAME!!!"...? This is one of them Bad points Snake Eyes is FRENCH, Storm Shadow is Korean, Scarlett is an AUSSIE. Scarlett has almost ZERO personality other than being a cold hearted BOOKWORM. Heck, she's never... Kay, that might be too much to reveal... Coupla Hollywood cliches. Ripcord + Scarlett= Loss of appetite. Even if I wasn't an SE/Scar supporter. Only three really big battles. The rest is plot build up, though good plot. While there is certainly room for plenty of cameoes, none other than Shipwreck is realy mentioned, specifically. And trust me, it is ONLY a cameo at best. Zartan is pretty much shown/mentioned twice, but at the very least, I can assure you, it will NOT be in vain. In fact, one could say his second scene holds the most possibilities and poses the biggest questions. But why do they have to give him a tick and make him crack his knuckles...? The "BIG REVEALS" of CC and the SE Vs SS rivalry are slightly anticlimactic, as they, and other flashback storylines, do not finish until the very moment the conflict does, so there's no "It was him all along", as we are given clues to a question we weren't even told to consider. Basically, if the characters have pasts and histories with each other, but they come off rushed and unimportant due to the fact that they are spread over the course of the film. SE Pulls a move that will have even his hardiest fans calling BS, and trully earning him the nickname "Deus Ex Machina"... Not that he doesn't deserve it. ;) "Yo JOE" is now "GO JOES"..... Seiously, what was wrong with "Yo" Hollywood? The character death READS (repeat, READS) very "throwaway". It makes me not even care they were in the movie at all... There will be more coming, so check this post if you would like more. Last edited by Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja; 04-07-2008 at 06:03 AM.. |
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04-07-2008, 01:12 AM | #2 |
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Ripcord and Scarlett!!! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
I hope that's not true! |
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04-07-2008, 01:20 AM | #3 |
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It's in the script.
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04-07-2008, 01:37 AM | #4 |
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As for nationalities- look at the cast. It saws Hawk is British, but you sure as hell don't hire Dennis Quaid to do a British accent, and I doubt Rachel Nichols is going to do an Aussie accent. They seemed to have pussed out on making the cast as international as the script. I'm not saying I'm expecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they made SE an orphan from an unnamed Western country instead of specifically saying he's French. A single line from the young Storm Shadow is all that identifies him as French.
BTW- one thing I liked- the members of the Arash. clan take new names when they join. So Snake-Eyes is literally his real name- I never liked how the comics never seemed to explain why SE's name was classified, and what he did that was so important that caused it to be so. As for Ripcord/Scarlett- she kisses him once before he takes off on a mission, and at the end, they're not exactly standing with their arms around each other, you know? From what I heard on imdb, I thought that if they listened to the fans and made SE/S in movie 2 they'd have to do some writing to get her away from Ripcord, but they could literally ignore Scarlett kissing Ripcord and get away with it. To TheVileOne- I am merely saying that the S/R romance could literally be ignored in the next movie for all they do with it here, not saying I think they will go out of their way to go SE/S in movie 2. |
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Snake-Eyes is American, period. And why would Hollywood do something like make SE French when they know France hates us?
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04-07-2008, 01:45 AM | #6 |
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True, with SE they don't say he's French, cept SS, but the script says he is. And SE talks... So heres waiting to see if he talks with an accent... GRIMACE...
But yeah, Storm Shadow, he's American in my book, too. |
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04-07-2008, 01:50 AM | #7 |
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But, based on where the Arashikage dojo is located, it makes sense for SE to be French, I guess, if you need a Western orphan in that part of the world. But he can still be American. Last edited by Bug-Eyed Earl; 04-07-2008 at 01:54 AM.. |
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True, and here's hoping that Hama fixes it. But, as far as the movie goer will know, SE does not have a nationality unless his accent gives it away, as SS calls him French, while Hard Master says he isnt... In what actually, looking at the script, kinda seems... Biggoted...
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, THIS SCRIPT, IT'S REVIEW AND THE THINGS BEING DISCUSSED ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF ANY CHANGES MADE TO THE SCRIPT BY LARRY HAMA OR ANY REWRITES. Also, America RULEZ!!! |
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04-07-2008, 08:02 AM | #9 |
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"And why would Hollywood do something like make SE French when they know France hates us?"
This is my first post here, i'm living in France and i can assure you French people are not "anti-américain". Some are confused by medias (the poor-minded), the others are watching your country with respect; myself with great respect. Concerning a french Snake-eyes, i also think it's a lame idea. But in the past Mr Hama referred sometimes to European countries (Scotland for Scarlett, may be France for Zartan) in GI Joe. I'm confident in Mr Hama, his choices will surely be soon explained. Merci pour votre attention ! Last edited by Amaury Sanderson; 04-07-2008 at 08:26 AM.. |
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"And why would Hollywood do something like make SE French when they know France hates us?"
This is my first post here, i'm living in France and i can assure you French people are not "anti-américain". Some are confused by medias (the poor-minded), the others are watching your country with respect; myself with great respect. Concerning a french Snake-eyes, i also think it's a lame idea. But in the past Mr Hama referred sometimes to European countries (Scotland for Scarlett, may be France for Zartan) in GI Joe. I'm confident in Mr Hama, his choices will surely be soon explained. Merci pour votre attention !
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