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04-20-2008, 11:57 AM | #141 |
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g o joe???? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
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04-20-2008, 12:00 PM | #142 |
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Yo Joe!
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04-20-2008, 12:14 PM | #143 |
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"Go Joe" is an industrial hand-cleaner.
And they're gonna need an industrial cleaner to wipe the stink off this one.
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04-20-2008, 08:38 PM | #144 |
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man, you're cynical remarks towards this movie are becoming more and more creative by the day. :|
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04-21-2008, 04:00 AM | #145 |
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yes, Brian Goldman said it was based on it, and like I said there are elements that are, so he was telling the truth from that perspective. as I said above, he never claimed it to be an adaptation of the comic, which is completely different. being based on something is far more vague and allows room for interpretation. besides, what they say really has nothing to do with the actual movie, only the way you perceive it and react to it. so, if you step away from the "lie" you believe you were told, can you judge the movie on its own merits beyond your disappointment that it isn't an adaptation of the comic?
Tim Burton's Batman - retelling - major hit Batman Begins - retelling - major hit Transformer - retelling - major hit X-Men - retelling - major hit EDIT: Spiderman - retelling - major hit sure, there are equal amounts of other retellings that sucked and were not, the point is that it isn't the retelling that is the problem, it is the quality of the retelling, so it isn't accurate to just blanket retellings as being failures when it isn't the case. By no means am I saying this movie will flop based on being a retelling alone. I was not clear in my thoughts, and for that, my apologies. Most, shall we say, "bastardized" retellings, in which they go "prequel" such as House of the Dead, or try to make a "coherent" story based on material such as Double Dragon and Street Fighter, or just do something unique, "Hulk", or whatever move they make that distances the film from what made the product great are flops. Even Superman Returns is considered, by many, a dissapointment to the studios. By no means am I saying that being a "reimagining" will doom the film; Batman Begins is my favorite movie, and I can deal with some and specific changes, but my problems with this film are A, I dislike the script, B, too many things, which are considered by many to be core Joe plot points, have been abandonded and C, the director was made equally fun movies (th Mummy series) and downright cheesy (Van Helsing), so I have no faith in his direction (I'm waiting to see where things go). But there is only so far one can go, regardless. A film is made up of various components, and when those components do not mesh, the film is considered "a dissappointment". Just look at X3 compared to the other two, and Spider-Man 3. There is npo gaurantee for success, and I will not claim to have the answers, but I will say that I find the Joe script to have multiple points in which it could easily appease fans, yet does not in an attempt to win over other audiences, which are shallow and cliche. And if I was on the Joe team, and some idiot started saying "GO JOES!", I'm pretty sure I would make them my human shield next fire fight. |
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04-21-2008, 12:08 PM | #146 |
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LOL. And in this case, I actually did.
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04-21-2008, 08:57 PM | #147 |
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But you think "yo joe" sounds better? Please. That was probably the most cheesy thing about GI Joe, I couldn't stand it. I was hoping they would get rid of it altogether.
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04-21-2008, 10:14 PM | #148 |
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If you look at most comic based movies, nearly all of them differ from the source material. Ninja turtles, Batman Begins, Superman Returns, X-Men, all of the ones in recent history were not strict adaptations of the comics they were based on. Even 300, as close as someone wants to say that was, was different from the comic. The closest comic based movie to come off as an adaptation is Sin City, and thats about it. We can argue that Spiderman was so close, but it was different. I see Gi Joe being no different.
Rule of thumb with comic based movies, is that they will differ. For example, I love Batman Begins, but was it 100% accurate to the comic? No. Nonetheless it was still a good movie. The main thing I worry about in this movie is whether the director can pull it off or not. i think you defenders of the movie are missing the point. most of us realize that comic inspired movies MUST be adapted somewhat. they did this, as was pointed out, with Spiderman, Batman, Superman, X - Men, etc. in those movies, they left out MANY things about the characters. BUT, let's ask... what did they ADD to the characters? seriously, i just thought about it. in spiderman they left out MJ being a model, TV star, etc. in GI Joe, they're leaving out Snake Eyes being mute / disfigured. in Transformers, they left out the Transformers being stranded here 4 million years ago... in GI Joe, they're leaving out the Joes being a hardcore anti-terrorist unit. but what are they adding? new nationalities... new relationships...( scarlett / ripcord, duke / baroness ) a voice...( snake eyes ) new histories ( Cobra Commander ) should the list go on? some of you have "insider" knowledge. i have none of this. i get on here once a day and get my info, and i've picked up this stuff. the point most of us are making is that they are changing TOO much of the CORE characters. i challenge you, friendly of course, to come up with more changes in these other adaptations. ( besides maybe Hulk, which was a terd ) |
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04-21-2008, 10:18 PM | #149 |
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You should see how they used "Kung Fu Grip". |
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04-21-2008, 10:27 PM | #150 |
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for the record, "yo Joe" would be something left out that i would understand...due to the cheese factor.
that being said, i could see kids going with it. you'd be surprised what the 4 year old says...matter of fact, he's been watching the first 5 part series on dvd, and "yo joe" has popped out a few times. |
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