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11-21-2009, 12:56 PM | #1 |
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Mods if this is the wrong forum, please move it for me thanks.
With Poc or whatever the hell they are going to call a sequel I thought about what I would like to see and what direction I would want to see it go in. So lets say if Paramount said to you.... go ahead and take over The GI JOe franchise but their only caveat was that you could not recast or reboot the franchise what direction would you go in? Since I am not really a fan of ROC and thinking that ARAH had its silly moments I tried to take the best from both worlds and combine it together. So please read and tell me your thoughts, where am I going wrong what would you do different or whatever... here goes: |
11-21-2009, 12:57 PM | #2 |
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Okay I have given this a lot of thought and I think that if the next GI JOE movie would correct a few things they can both make the ROC people happy as well as ARAH people happy. Here is my take on what should go on in the next film....if I was in charge of GI JOE!
It should be set 1-2 years after ROC.......... We start the film with The Joe team and the pit being already dismantled. As President Zartan is taking orders from Cobra Commander taking out their biggest threat would seem to be first order of business. The Jugglers decide to rebuild GI JOE without backing and or support from other countries and they do so state side. This is done without permission or knowledge from President Zartan. reason, being the Jugglers have questions about some of his decisions! Primarily giving the trinity of Destro, CC and baroness a pardon! Anyway, the Pit is once again on American soil and GI JOE is once again an organization that does not exist. Smaller roster, no funding for Accelerator suits..... the government took them back. Some of this can be explained in dialog throughout the film or Hawk can be talking to his new aide-de-camp Cover Girl....... to remain consistent and conceal everyone true identities we will earn that some names are reused. This is in part to throw off the enemy with confusion! The film will have the joes together for the first part of the movie and then spilt them up as they tackle their own missions. We will also learn that President Zartan pardoned Destro, Cobra Commander and The Baroness....further proof that he is a traitor. But the Joes need proof! The climax of the film will bring them all back together for a final showdown with Cobra. The first mission: The Joes are sent to rescue the Vice President when his convoy is attacked outside of Washington at a small airport where Airforce 2 has landed..... Duke, Breaker, Sgt. Stone, Scarlett, Ripcord, Heavy Duty, Snake Eyes all arrive and without their tech are forced to do things the ole' fashion way and defend the Vice President. Ripcord gets his hands on a small plane and with the help of Breaker and Heavy Duty they fly the VP out. Duke, Snake Eyes, Scarlett and Sgt. Stone are left to cover for them. In the process two assassins emerge to take out the Vice President. One is wearing a modified Accelerator suit and going by the name of Wraith and the other Firefly. Firefly shoots and injures Scarlett. He then aims for a cars gas tank and fires, meaning ot kill Scarlett. Snake runs and pushes her out of the way taking most of the blast disfiguring him and leaving him a mess. Sgt. Stone in turn takes out and kills Wraith but not before being badly injured himself. Duke manages to get everyone into a small single engine cessna where a young pilot by the name of Brad Armbruster (Ace) gets them out of their safely. this actor has to be cast white and you will see why below. Anyway, we don't see ACE (really) again but its eluded that Hawk has plans for him for the future. He offers him a spot on GI JOE. A great scene would be Hawk asking him what he wants his call sign to be and he says Ripcord, sine he is an Airborne-Ranger and Marlon Wayans says something like; "But, that's my name" this would be a great freaking wink to the audience and to the fans who bitched about this. We then see Snake in intensive care and Sgt. Stone being fitted with an eye patch and mech. arm. Scarlett is sitting with Snake and Ripcord comes in. they exchange a few words and Ricpord realizes that what they have is far greater then what he could ever have with her. They end their dialog with words that signify the ending of their whatever relationship. But to make those people happy that want Ripcord to have a girl. A great Cameo(s) would be if Both Docs.... Male and female are present. Doc Sr. can tell female doc to take a break. She can say something like its my first day I don't know where the mess room is and Ripcord being the oh-so-funny character jumps in and escorts her. Now this will keep those who have any and all issues with Ripcord and Scarlett to go away and ret-con the whole relationship between Snake and Scarlett! Snake gets a new outfit - more resolute/ ARAH than ROC. The Middle of the film: Now a civilian by the name of Jill (yes the female Dialtone) intercepts a coded message from Cobra Commander to The President (Zartan) and she calls the CIA to report this. Breaker sees this through some tech he has going on and reports to General Hawk who then decides to send out a few Joes to assist in bringing her in safely. Protocol states that since Breaker is not combat ready ala the rest of the Joes they send him out with a small team....enter small roles. We can toss in Quick Kick and Flash. Heavy Duty is supposed to go with him on another mission has delayed his return. Hawk decides to send a random person as this is only a snatch and grab mission so he send in the cook Roadblock as the fourth man. On this mission which is going on concurrent with the rest of the film but its own storyline Quick Kick and Flash are killed when we learn that the CIA has been all but infiltrated by the Noks in thanks to President Zartan. So we have the mentality of an organized gang disguised by our own Govt. So the Nok-CIA are given the task to bring in Jill before she blows the whistle to someone who will listen. Needless to say that Breaker, Jill (Dialtone) and Roadblock contact Hawk who informs them to seek shelter with a fellow colleague who is the best at what he does. They do that and end up meeting a man who helped launch GI JOE but was injured on one of the first missions and was forced into retirement.... He to went by the call name of Breaker (okay, so everyone now has their beloved breaker back) and he assists the joes in getting back to base. So we establish that there are multi-people in the ROC universe that have shared the same call sign! We kill off characters that are supposed to be dead in ARAH and he introduce Roadblock as a bad mutha' f**ker! Snake Eyes gets a visit from Storm Shadow telling him that the man who killed their master was indeed Firefly and his next target will be the Vice President. Fearing that this man will not stop trying until the VP is dead and knowing that The President is a traitor Hawk has no choice but to seek out Firefly and eliminate him first. so Scarlett, Snake and Storm shadow go off to deal with this. In this storyline we can get into all kinds of bad-ass ninja fighting. Maybe Firefly runs the Red Ninjas now? We also learn that Snake has been training Scarlett the past few years and she is a force to be reckoned with as well. in the end they kill Firefly and Storm Shadow goes rogue....... leaving Cobra but not going with the Joes! Duke, Heavy Duty and Baroness are tasked with keeping the VP safe in a remote location until Hawk knows for certain who the real threat to the VP is. They are certain its the President but without proof they cannot do anything. They take him to the woods of Montana where a Tracker by the name of Spirit assists them in keeping the VP safe. Here we find the more traditional noks that come to collect the bounty on the VP as well as Destro and the Grenadiers on their trail. We finally have Baroness betray Duke and leave with Destro despite their failure in killing the VP............ again we ret-con the whole relationship! The Final Battle: Once Firefly is taken out, DialTone is brought to the Pit and Duke and Heavy Duty arrive with the VP the final battle begins. Using real world tech and vehicles the Joes launch an invasion on the White House where they need to arrest the President. After the dust is settled The VP takes command and orders the immediate arrest of Cobra Commander, Baroness,Destro and Zartan. But Zartan rides off with the Noks in a classic getting on his Harley scene, we see him headed to The Everglades. Cobra Commander is betrayed by Destro and the Baroness who cut a deal with the Govt. and disclose his (Cobra Commanders) small Island where he has been running his base of operation. But as everyone is arrested on the Island, we see Cobra Commander arrive in a small town of Springfield where he has an army awaiting him. He enters a buidling called Extensive Enterprises where the twins escort him into a lab. We see Dr. Mindbender telling him that Project Serpentor is done! The GI JOE is reactivated with the addition of Spirit, Sgt. (cyborg) Stone, Roadblock, ACE and Dialtone. So what do you guys think? I put this together in a few minutes so I know it needs tweaking..... any thoughts, ideas, complaints....let me have it. Last edited by Rocky; 11-21-2009 at 03:10 PM.. |
11-21-2009, 01:56 PM | #3 |
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well, you know a h8er like me would love it...
its a pretty good base...and like you said, some simple tweaking could improve it...i like all the easy no-name actor cameos...such an easy thing to do...their could be plenty more too as simple as background walk throughs... i would also like to mention that even though i liked it, it did feel like us "cry babies" were being patranized |
11-21-2009, 02:00 PM | #4 |
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Hey, dont get me wrong.......... I am the biggest cry baby out there. I hate the fact that all it would have took is some f**king tweaking to get ROC to be a decent and good representation of GI JOE.
Either way, I certainly did not mean to come off Patranizing as I was trying to cram in a lot with as little explanation to avoid it being way too long......lol. |
11-21-2009, 02:05 PM | #5 |
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well, reguardless, i WOULD pay to see your version...fixing the little things that put such a bad taste in fans mouths would go a long way to making the old schoolers happy while not in the least bit affecting any potential new fans...
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11-21-2009, 02:30 PM | #6 |
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You lost me with your 1st paragraph.
5 to 7 years after the 1st movie? Dismantle the PIT? The Jugglers? (I know who the Jugglers are) I'd start of with Zartan giving Destro and The Commander a presidential pardon and having Joe be like WTF. Then I'd have The Commander have Cobra take credit for what happened in France and threaten the world with another terrorist attack. Then I'd have Joe use the Baroness to help them track down Cobra before it's too late. Towards the end I'd have her reveal she was a sleeper agent... |
11-21-2009, 02:37 PM | #7 |
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You lost me with your 1st paragraph.
5 to 7 years after the 1st movie? Dismantle the PIT? The Jugglers? (I know who the Jugglers are) I'd start of with Zartan giving Destro and The Commander a presidential pardon and having Joe be like WTF. Then I'd have The Commander have Cobra take credit for what happened in France and threaten the world with another terrorist attack. Then I'd have Joe use the Baroness to help them track down Cobra before it's too late. Towards the end I'd have her reveal she was a sleeper agent... |
11-21-2009, 02:44 PM | #8 |
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I pay 10 bucks to see that!
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11-21-2009, 02:49 PM | #9 |
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Well with Zartan in control as President I assume he would dismantle the JOES. As far as setting the film 5-7 years would allow the Jugglers time to reorganize and rebuild the Joes and Pitt. It would almost be as if they were attempting a coup d'etat over the United States Govt. in essence. Hawk going rogue would need the backing of some sort of entitiy, agreed?
As far as Cobra Commander declaring another terrorist attack would be inconsistent with his character per ROC as he is much more calculated than that - look at putting Zartan in the White House. |
11-21-2009, 02:52 PM | #10 |
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I understand where you're going with most of it, but...
5 to 7 years later? Why would Zartan wait that long to pardon Cobra Commander, Destro, and The Baroness? Wouldn't President Zartan be out of office by then anyway? No need for multiple people with the same code name. We may get it, but nobody else would. Unfortunately with ROC, we're stuck with the versions of the characters we've got. Like it or not. And why would Clutch, a vehicle driver, want to be called Ripcord? And leave Serpentor out. We may get 3 movies out of this, so the more Cobra Commander the better. MAYBE if they can take things up a notch or TEN, we can get a spin-off for Snake-Eyes like Wolverine. They can put in characters like Stalker or any of the other original 13. I do want to se the Joes not under UN control and their base back on US soil. The main thing I would like to see is the Joes using current US military hardware - some cool updates of classic vehicles that would make great toys. Not like that Rent-A-Van they used in Paris. *groan*
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