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5 - Excellent movie! | 55 | 13.68% | |
4 - Pretty good. | 126 | 31.34% | |
3 - Average, not good, not bad. | 87 | 21.64% | |
2 - Pretty bad. | 57 | 14.18% | |
1 - Terrible movie! | 77 | 19.15% | |
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01-20-2010, 01:24 PM | #1691 |
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Thanks guys, not sure I've got that great of a point of view, but I appreciate the compliment.
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01-20-2010, 01:32 PM | #1692 |
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This, I 100% agree with.
Although I disagree that a different movie wouldn't result in the same money. A rated R, adult version of GI Joe wouldn't have worked, I agree. But a better PG-13 version would have. Imagine how much better the movie would have done if it could have satisfied both kids (still a fun, light-hearted movie) and adults (in terms of quality, not graphic content) the way Iron Man did. Iron Man wasn't Oscar worthy either, it wasn't an adult movie, it wasn't serious in tone - but it maintained a huge focus on quality of story and visual effects. It was fun in way that both critical adults and children could both enjoy. Now imagine a movie like that, with the marketing juggernaut behind RoC and you've got something that appeals to a much broader audience, but still sells toys. Jsut because it's about toys made for kids doesn't mean quality storytelling should be thrown out the window. It's possible to bridge the gap. In terms of all the "little things" that RoC missed (sand in the pit, etc), I really don't care - there were so many larger issues with the movie. Those little things don't even register as important when you've got more basic issues like bad dialogue, wooden acting, and poor direction. |
01-20-2010, 03:14 PM | #1693 |
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Had that been done with GI Joe. Gone back to the beginning of the Marvel run and move SE, SS, and Stalker's unit from Vietnam to Iraq, and introduce the Joe unit and it's formation that way...with some real world issues and a little bit of gritty realism, we would have ended up with a movie that pleased many of us, and that most parents would have let their kids see. Even if some of the things weren't REALLY kid friendly. .
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The only problem is that Joe isn't a "superhero" property. It's a military themed one. So while Ironman could use the gritty realism of the Middle East as a backdrop to make a very real point, and add some "credibility" to the film, then move on. Joe would have a really hard time using that and moving far enough away to "lighten the mood" enough for the kids, I think.
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Then again, in the times we live in, maybe using GI Joe to give kids a peak at what's really going on in the world, but with using colorful character, could have taken RoC from a cash in film about a toy line, and made it into art. Then again...no one really likes art.
I wanted something like Jason Mraz, or Norah Jones. What we got was something like Britany Spears.
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01-20-2010, 03:43 PM | #1694 |
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I was just watching the Sigma 6 cartoon. Rex Lewis is modeled after Scot(Hawk's son) and the CC mask looks inspired from Overkill in a bacta tank's head,lol.
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01-20-2010, 04:11 PM | #1695 |
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It's more that you were able to explain your thoughts clearly and coherently without bashing anyone else or their opinions. Not all that common on the Tank.
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01-20-2010, 05:27 PM | #1696 |
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Thanks again, but I'm no angel, and I'm rarely coherent. I'm really glad I found this forum. I never knew Joes were still going strong inbetween ARAH and RoC, and there was such a big community out there. I left Joe behind around 85-86, and I got back into them when the movie came out and I rediscovered them with my son. I've come to really like it here. 99% of the time I find people on here to be great, and a wealth of information.
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01-20-2010, 05:50 PM | #1697 |
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Well, I don't think we want GI Joe turned into a serious art piece, no one wants that. But something containing artistic quality while still maintaining the mass appeal, yes.
I wanted something like Jason Mraz, or Norah Jones. What we got was something like Britany Spears. I'm determined to keep an open mind about the sequel, though. I hope it has some elements of the PoC theme in it. Nothing would be cooler then seeing different squads of Joes all over the world hunting down Cobra on the big screen.
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01-20-2010, 06:00 PM | #1698 |
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This, I 100% agree with.
Although I disagree that a different movie wouldn't result in the same money. A rated R, adult version of GI Joe wouldn't have worked, I agree. But a better PG-13 version would have. Imagine how much better the movie would have done if it could have satisfied both kids (still a fun, light-hearted movie) and adults (in terms of quality, not graphic content) the way Iron Man did. Iron Man wasn't Oscar worthy either, it wasn't an adult movie, it wasn't serious in tone - but it maintained a huge focus on quality of story and visual effects. It was fun in way that both critical adults and children could both enjoy. Now imagine a movie like that, with the marketing juggernaut behind RoC and you've got something that appeals to a much broader audience, but still sells toys. Jsut because it's about toys made for kids doesn't mean quality storytelling should be thrown out the window. It's possible to bridge the gap. In terms of all the "little things" that RoC missed (sand in the pit, etc), I really don't care - there were so many larger issues with the movie. Those little things don't even register as important when you've got more basic issues like bad dialogue, wooden acting, and poor direction.
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01-20-2010, 06:02 PM | #1699 |
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While... I can watch it with my son and enjoy the fact that I'm sitting there watching a LIVE ACTION Joe movie and geek out a little... the reality of how disappointing the whole thing turned out will always be there.
I'm determined to keep an open mind about the sequel, though. I hope it has some elements of the PoC theme in it. Nothing would be cooler then seeing different squads of Joes all over the world hunting down Cobra on the big screen. It's like you're inside my HEAD! ...Except for the not sitting there and bashing it. I do that whenever given the opportunity. But besides that, yeah. Right on!
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01-20-2010, 06:09 PM | #1700 |
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A true BROMANCE in the making. How sweet.
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