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View Poll Results: who should Scarlett be linked to romantically in the movie? | |||
Snake Eyes and Scarlett, basically follow the comics continuity | 72 | 75.79% | |
Scarlett and Duke, following the cartoon's beginnings | 10 | 10.53% | |
Scarlett and Ripcord, that Marlon Wayans is funny, i tell ya! | 3 | 3.16% | |
no time for romance, there are cobras to get! | 10 | 10.53% | |
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll |
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07-12-2009, 01:36 PM | #31 |
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Forcing Ripcord and Scarlett together just to have an interracial couple(if that is what they are doing), is almost as bad as making books for pre-schoolers about Danny's 2 Mommies(an age way before they need to be discussing people's sexual proclivites). There is nothing wrong, imho, with interracial or gay couples, but that doesn't mean you need to force it into every story.
I'm a pretty left-leaning, open minded guy myself, but I'll never call myself a liberal what with the crazy agendas a lot of them have. Although, both sides are full of "crazy agendas". The right side take away out right to say or show things due to "family values" and the left force us to do things only one way so as not to offend anyone. |
07-12-2009, 01:59 PM | #32 |
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Forcing Ripcord and Scarlett together just to have an interracial couple(if that is what they are doing), is almost as bad as making books for pre-schoolers about Danny's 2 Mommies(an age way before they need to be discussing people's sexual proclivites). There is nothing wrong, imho, with interracial or gay couples, but that doesn't mean you need to force it into every story.
To everyone else worried about the South rebelling again, here goes: In a time that saw Barak Obama become president it is hard to believe that you people are wondering and or worrying about The South boycotting this film for a potential interracial romance. I say potential since the film has not come out yet and we do not know what was edited out of the film. Not to mention their romance is pretty much the last story-line per the script. Arguably the movie is about these relationships in order: Duke and Baroness Snake-eyes and Storm Shadow Destro and Cobra Commander and last and definitely least..... Scarlett and Ripcord! But lets say for the sake of argument the Scarlett - Ripcord romance was/is the most pivotal relationship in the film....... so what! Not to mention that the script was not written describing Ripcord as Black. They made Ripcord the comic relief and they hired a person known from comedy. Race had nothing to do with it. |
07-12-2009, 02:19 PM | #33 |
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You sound very ignorant right about now. There is nothing forced about adding real type relationships into a film.
To everyone else worried about the South rebelling again, here goes: In a time that saw Barak Obama become president it is hard to believe that you people are wondering and or worrying about The South boycotting this film for a potential interracial romance. I say potential since the film has not come out yet and we do not know what was edited out of the film. Not to mention their romance is pretty much the last story-line per the script. Arguably the movie is about these relationships in order: Duke and Baroness Snake-eyes and Storm Shadow Destro and Cobra Commander and last and definitely least..... Scarlett and Ripcord! But lets say for the sake of argument the Scarlett - Ripcord romance was/is the most pivotal relationship in the film....... so what! Not to mention that the script was not written describing Ripcord as Black. They made Ripcord the comic relief and they hired a person known from comedy. Race had nothing to do with it. The argument about Ripcord & Scarlett's kiss is, by most people on this board, not about race but the fact that Scarlett has had relationships with 2 people in past storylines(both of who are in the movie with her), neither of who were Ripcord. If Marlon Wayans was a bigger star, I could almost understand the reason for those 2 characters hooking up. The only 2 answers most can think of are that the producers were trying to be PC or they have no knowledge of G.I. Joe's history at all. I'd bet it's a little bit of both. If you don't like that, ignore my posts. |
07-12-2009, 03:39 PM | #34 |
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Well then we agree to agree....... you are ignorant and I am one easily offended person!
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07-12-2009, 03:45 PM | #35 |
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The sad fact is that racism does exist and I can see that probably a few uptight people are going to have problems seeing a black man kiss a white woman in a romantic sense, but that's their problem. As it was stated, most of us could care less about an interracial kiss. The main beef is simply they could have just as easily wrote the whole romantic sub-plot between Scarlett and Duke or Scarlett and Snake Eyes. There is no reason for this change, so to my way of thinking? It's forced. I stated in another thread that I would have zero problems if they changed the character of Ripcord to Flint, and the character of Scarlett to Lady Jaye. In that context of the story? The romance would work. However, it does seem absurd if Hasbro did change Ripcord's ethnic background to be more PC, but consider this: What if they made Roadblock white? Or Stalker a caucasian? What message would that send? |
07-12-2009, 03:45 PM | #36 |
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Pretty brave for an anonymous poster picking fights with people who are just giving their opinions. To think, I actually refrained from any name calling in my previous post like I originally wanted to. |
07-12-2009, 03:50 PM | #37 |
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By the way,
My vote is for Duke and Scarlett. They are a great couple and Duke is everything a girl like Scarlett would want. And she "likes a man who knows what he wants." Hama did a great job with Snake Eyes and Scarlett but the cartoon had it right. Hasblo and their affirmative action with whites dating blacks and muslims in G.I.Joe is just far too bonkers. It was great with Spock and Uhura in the new Star Trek. I get that. I am happy for them. Ripcord (dip-dork) and Scarlett to quote one of wayan's cousins,......."I don't think so, homey don't play that game."
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07-12-2009, 03:53 PM | #38 |
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The only time I can remember them doing that was for a minor character in the Spawn movie. What with the fear of being picketed by Jackson & Sharpton and the white guilt a lot of non-racists still suffer from, we'll never see a Jeffersons movie starring Steve Carell(not that I want one even though we did get a black Honeymooners). I'm so sick of the fear we as a society have in regards to making any comments involving non-white races. 3 of my favorite Joes are Spirit, Roadblock, and Stalker. Yet, if I dare to bring up race in a civilized manner, I'm dubbed racist or "ignorant".
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07-12-2009, 04:04 PM | #39 |
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There is nothing more ignorant than calling someone ignorant simply because they have an opinion different than yours.
The sad fact is that racism does exist and I can see that probably a few uptight people are going to have problems seeing a black man kiss a white woman in a romantic sense, but that's their problem. As it was stated, most of us could care less about an interracial kiss. The main beef is simply they could have just as easily wrote the whole romantic sub-plot between Scarlett and Duke or Scarlett and Snake Eyes. There is no reason for this change, so to my way of thinking? It's forced. I stated in another thread that I would have zero problems if they changed the character of Ripcord to Flint, and the character of Scarlett to Lady Jaye. In that context of the story? The romance would work. However, it does seem absurd if Hasbro did change Ripcord's ethnic background to be more PC, but consider this: What if they made Roadblock white? Or Stalker a caucasian? What message would that send? Look, I agree with what you are saying. Ripcord as insignificant of a character should have remained his natural incarnation. I think that goes for all characters in fandom. Why mess with whats clearly not broken! But that's not my argument.... my argument is that the South (as implied) is not going to rise again in protest because on an interracial kiss in the movie GI JOE...... NOT GONNA HAPPEN! So that's just ignorant to imply and it promotes hate for a color which is clearly a violation to do on Hisstank! Secondly, I agree that they should have (even for fandom nostalgia sake) kept Scarlett with either Duke or Snake-Eyes but they didn't. There is no conspiracy to pit her with a black man because the script was written with this romance prior to casting. In other words nobody knew that a black man was going to play Ripcord! So we again should leave the race of the actor out of the picture. So again - I agree with what you are saying.... I just think race should not be brought up - unless you are clearly a racist! |
07-12-2009, 04:12 PM | #40 |
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Back on topic, back to Hasblo's affirmative action. Scarlett and "Ripcord" just don't mix right in on my plate of food.
Nothin racist intended. I am a child of mixed nationality. However, Hasblo's push for racial equality seems a little forced to be believable. Next thing you know in Transformers 3 we will all discover that Optimus Prime and ol' Megatron were actually former gay lovers and that's why they are so pissed at each other all the time! |
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