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10-31-2009, 05:09 PM | #991 |
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Crimson you sound like a crazy person......LOL....... what are you talking about? Now you can measure the success of ROC on your own without any documentation? Okay, let me ask you this:
How much did ROC make domestic? How much did ROC make overseas? This way we have a number we can debate....surely you think it made more than $1.00 but less than $300 million, correct? Also I was not refering to measruing ROC myself, I meant the other things he listed in his logical response, like that he earth is not the center of the universe (anyone can perform thier own experiments to prove this) as gunslingercbr accused me of belieiving is the truth as he jumps to extremes as I often do... |
10-31-2009, 05:10 PM | #992 |
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10-31-2009, 05:11 PM | #993 |
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Ahhh, I see. Okay but let me ask you this...be honest.... if ROC did do 300 million of ticket sales do you not measure that as success? |
10-31-2009, 05:35 PM | #994 |
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I know a lot of people do not beleive a movie has to make a profit to be a sucess from a movie stand point, but to me, if it does not have a motivating factor other then just to either win an award, sell toys or make no money on the invested capitol, then really what was the point of wasting all the time, money and resoruces to make it? If we had a verifiable outside firm that could provide actual finacial information in reagrds to the true profit and loss reported from this one movie (as the other movies compared to ROC do not matter as much as this one does especailly to the future of the toy line) it would be a little more eye opening to me since I can view the raw numbers myself. Kinda like the bible, if I could actually read the scriptures they have been translating through out time, and could actually read hebrew/ancient text prior to hebrew myself, i am sure I could find a reason to buy into that as well, but since I have to rely on another persons assement and opinion and blindly accept what he says is really the truth in it, I can not afford that to anyone, just the way I am. I question everything. Also very similar is since anyone can say hey I work for Hasbro, Paramount, Target, TRU, Scotttrade and not back it up with any proof what so ever and people just blindly accept that at face value, I take real issue with that since you can not verify the source of the material nor the numbers as truley accurate if they did not come form the soruce with credability and and without bias.. I can just say it made $450 million dollars cause I worked closely with the budgeting firm and not provide a shred of evidence and if I have built the right stature on this board and enough of a following then everyone would just hands down agree with me at every post and balk at anyone who questions it. Last edited by CrimsonGuard101; 10-31-2009 at 05:38 PM.. |
10-31-2009, 05:39 PM | #995 |
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It was once (not so long ago) a rule in Hollywood, that a film needed to gross 3 times its production budget to start turning a profit. Why such a ratio, you ask? The production budget doesn't usually include advertising, cost of film prints, distribution costs, back-end costs for major players, interest on any loans, etc. Also factor in that theaters take a hefty portion of the box office numbers, and you can see how the cost to the studio to release a movie adds up.
I don't think the 3:1 ratio exists anymore due to factors like, cable fees, DVD rentals and sales, merchandise, and growing international take for larger movies. Therefore, the ratio is lower than previous decades. If you look at the actual box office numbers, don't be fooled into thinking that the studio just pockets that money. There are different people taking their share out of that amount of money. The turnaround time between theatrical release and video has been shrinking lately as well. Why? Studios want to recoup their hefty costs for these movies. If they release the video versions closer to the theatrical release, they can save on advertising costs. The movie is still fresh in audience's minds. ROC is not considered an initial success, because its domestic box office total is far below the prodcution cost of the movie. This is generally considered a bad thing. Sure, there's international box office, but factor in advertising, distribution costs, and theater costs. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. ROC's performance on video will largely determine GI Joe's future in film. It will have to perform rather well for a sequel to be made. And/or the toys will have to really move this holiday season. Both can happen, but the toy prices are being slashed which isn't a good sign. Yes, the price drops will help sales but there's also a stigma attached to the line that it's being "clearanced" and not doing well. Hopefully, the holiday season is kind to ROC and GI Joe in general. I do think ROC increased exposure for the brand. And POC, if it has a successfull cartoon, could definatley help the brand. I'm sure Hasbro is taking cues from Clone Wars which is really driving sales for Star Wars stuff. A POC show is a must for the brand.
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Kinda like the bible, if I could actually read the scriptures they have been translating through out time, and could actually read hebrew/ancient text prior to hebrew myself, i am sure I could find a reason to buy into that as well, but since I have to rely on another persons assement and opinion and blindly accept what he says is really the truth in it, I can not afford that to anyone, just the way I am. I question everything.
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Exaclty what i am referring, too expecting people to just hands down beileve this without a shred of proof? Sorry. Ain't happening. Post up some of your degrees on the topics at hand and prove it, put your money with your mouth is. I have had anyting substantial to prove statements that I was a so called expert, I would put it right out there for anyone to see, but I am not so I can't. Other than that it is just plain old showboating... |
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Exaclty what i am referring, too expecting people to just hands down beileve this without a shred of proof? Sorry. Ain't happening.
Post up some of your degrees on the topics at hand and prove it, put your money with your mouth is. I have had anyting substantial to prove statements that I was a so called expert, I would put it right out there for anyone to see, but I am not so I can't. Other than that it is just plain old showboating...
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Well, the fact that the sequal is in production tells me at least that somebody, somewhere at the studio and at hasbro made some coin of off the film. How much only the studio accountants know for sure and only under torture will the reveal the actual numbers.
I am just happy that there is gonna be a sequel (another chance for them to get it right) and there is the possibility of a new cartoon. And Chaplain Asst. I would say your degree gives you some credibility as to your expertise. And CG101, I am kind of the same way I question absolutely everything, and then come to my own conclusion. But religion for the most part does not work that way, it is ultimately an leap of faith and belief.... |
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