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08-17-2009, 11:45 AM | #111 |
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Look how silly you are. We are not talking about success...... Learn to read....... that will be your best-friend on a message board! I never said it would not be considered a success did I? (we will all wait while you go back and re-read what I wrote) You are right it all does get rolled up into one..... but that's not what we are talking about is it. We were talking about if it has made back its money and it has not! If this movie is a blockbuster which it is not.. at the moment..... I cannot tell the future so it can still make its money back but all indications are saying Not a chance.
I even went as far as to say that there is no reason why it wont have a sequel...... I was simply saying that to break even or make a profit they would have to make X,Y and Z. And in the last 100 years or so of movie making business DVD's has been a factor for less than 15 years..... So NO, studios do not count DVD sales into theatrical sales. One has nothing to do with the other. How can they factor in DVD sales when the frakking movie is still in the theaters.. You need to get a grip on what your thoughts are before you spew them at us. Now I don't need to give you a resume on who I am and any one with a semblance of intelligence would think that if I did work for Paramount I would not be crapping on my own film. Not to mention that I will trade my knowledge of putting a film into theaters when you give me the information of said manager you are acquainted with. |
08-17-2009, 11:46 AM | #112 |
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As daft as it sounds, I'll probably buy the DVD twice if they do a single version and two-disc set. I like to collect such things, especially if the covers are different.
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08-17-2009, 11:49 AM | #113 |
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I am still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread. The OP asked if this movie was a blockbuster. The answer is no. For it's opening weekend it did about as well as many of us predicted it would (50-70 million) and dropped off considerably (58%) from there. It held the #1 spot for one week and was dethroned by a movie that had nowhere near the same amount of marketing. That should have been enough to answer the question. Folks should really stop over analyzing this thing and let it go. The movie did ok/well for an August release and will do even better once it comes out on DVD. How many of you/us actually plan to buy the movie the day it comes out on DVD? I do.
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08-17-2009, 11:52 AM | #114 |
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I wouldn't go that far...I'll stick with interesting/plausible =)
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Really?
I've seen nothing but strong sales where I live. The TRU displays I had seen packed to the brim are now nearly empty as far as the 3 3/4 figs are concerned. I recently ran across a guy at TRU who is buying 4 of each figure and have seen many kids buying up ROC merchandise. There is no way ROC figures are even in the same solar system as IJ figures. Everything I mentioned was from "MY" point of view and in the area in which I live. So yes....HERE anyway it is IJ all over again...I've seen all sorts of sales in an attempt to weed the stuff out, which tells you something....They didn't even do that with IJ *right after the movie hit* which tells "me" that they don't want a repeat of that on a over-hyped product, so lets get rid of it while the movie is out.. Even so...plain and simple, it doesn't seem to move over here. |
08-17-2009, 12:03 PM | #115 |
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As well as a potential non-sequel, I worry the new 2010 figures won't see the light of day. They're a bit overcooked but a customiser's wet dream nonetheless.
Anyone know how the toy sales are out there? |
08-17-2009, 12:12 PM | #116 |
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Well the '2010' stuff was shown in a batch with City Strike Duke and Snake Eyes. Since some of us have these already one assumes they will be far enough in development to be going ahead. In fact I wonder if the 2010 strategy will start with the first waves before Christmas. And ws toys in November LOL!!!
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08-17-2009, 12:19 PM | #117 |
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You guys think that this movie cost $135 million to make? I can tell you that it did not. It actually cost about half that.
Ask anyone that is involved in movie production and they will tell you that those "production cost" numbers are usually twice inflated. Take District 9 and Cloverfield as examples. Those movies reportedly cost around $35 million to make. Putting them in the "low budget" categories. When they make money, they're considered overwhelming successes. I'm pretty sure that someway, somehow, the producers of this movie want us to think they aren't making money. All of the Spider-man movies "lost" money. Ask Marvel, they'll tell you that. Mostly because they don't want to pay Stan Lee, but the numbers add up to them "losing" money. The fact that Paramount has fast tracked a second GI Joe movie is evidence to me that GI Joe has made, and is making money. The bean counters will sell it so it looks like RoC was somewhat of a failure. I've seen it a few times and everytime I've gone, the theater is nearly filled.
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08-17-2009, 12:20 PM | #118 |
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you do know depending on extremes makes for a week argument. considering that TDK is the second highest grossing film of all time, its success in no way diminished other films that aren't nearly as successful. or in lame internet cliches, your example is epic fail.
that being said, ROC won't be considered a blockbuster. I can't see it topping more than $135 million in the U.S. that's not good for a $175 million film. the opening weekend gross for an August film is impressive, and reveals some interest in the concept. I think a reboot may be in order for one more shot. can you say buy buy Sommers, Tatum and Wayans? |
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08-17-2009, 12:24 PM | #119 |
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I don't understand the problem folks have with Tatum or Summers. I had no problem with Tatum as Duke and Summers definitely delivered the blow 'em up flick that I wanted out of a GI Joe movie. I also wasn't as annoyed with Wayans being Ripcord as I thought I'd be. Yes, I still say Ripcord should be white but, generally speaking, I was ok with Wayans excluding the whole romance with Scarlet crap. I really see no reason for a reboot either. The sequel just needs to do a good job of undoing the stupid crap they gave us in the first movie. Make the Baroness a woman driven by money and power. Make Scarlett and Duke all yo joesy for one another. Make SS not be dead. Give CC a hood or a better mask than that thing he wore at the end. There, problems solved...for me anyway. Last edited by jaxscorpio; 08-17-2009 at 12:36 PM.. |
08-17-2009, 12:37 PM | #120 |
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After 10 days, RoC is approx $1.45 million less than F4 in terms of domestic B.O.
F4 went on to make $154,700,000. $330 worldwide Do we think that's the ballpark for RoC??? Something like $150 domestic and $300 ww as likely possibilities? If so it'll have made money. I'd imagine RoC merchandise sales will easily eclipse F4. The biggest problem, that I can tell, has been the excessive budget. If RoC is seen as a modest success, it'll be partly because of the big budget. |
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