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08-10-2009, 06:07 PM | #31 |
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I agree, but for me at least the debate has been worth it, not least because of your contributions, so thanks for sharing your views.
I didn't think it was the case, but I thought I'd throw it out there for views. I find that when something interests me, listening to other's contributions proves enlightening. that's why the Stone/Flint argument fails, because it breaks from the pattern of every other single character in the movie, and two, it doesn't make sense because there is no reason to do it if the audience doesn't know. |
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08-10-2009, 06:10 PM | #32 |
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but you've ignored the main difference -- the character's names have remained.
Breaker and HD remain Breaker and Heavy Duty, regardless of their filenames. your suggestion that Stone is Flint despite not having the same code name or file name is not even remotely the same thing. you ignore the pattern set forth in the established changes and then say Stone for Flint fits the pattern when it doesn't. It is what it is until it changes. You or me or Troynos or ANYONE saying "THIS is THIS and THAT is THAT" has no bearing whatever on what will be. Yes, we can be personally comfortable with one thing or another, but none of us is in charge, so none of us can say anything for certain. Brendan Frasier, regardless of what many of us think of him, was one of the more famous actors to show up. I personally think he would be a fine Flint and that if they chose to go that route, I would accept it. It would make sense for him to play a prominent Joe. His file name would be minor compared to other changes made. There is precedent for codename changes as well. Just ask General Tomahawk. As far as the similarities I pointed out, they were simply that. Similarities. I never at any point said that anything was set in stone.
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clearly the movie has changed characters, but ultimately those changes have followed the same pattern -- a classic and known code name to identify the historic character, and then the peripheral details are changed, like his file name or race, to give the established character a new quality.
that's why the Stone/Flint argument fails, because it breaks from the pattern of every other single character in the movie, and two, it doesn't make sense because there is no reason to do it if the audience doesn't know. 2. It could very well have been a placeholder name and more, there was never supposed to be an argument. It was observation.
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08-10-2009, 06:13 PM | #35 |
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Uhh maybe I'm wrong but isn't a Captain above a Sgt? Why would Duke take a rank cut?
Duke wanted to stay in the battle and not in the office in the comics and cartoons and never accepted the commission. afterall in the caroons and comics we have never known him as Captain Duke Hauser of thwe US Army,we have always known him as an existing member of GIJOE and off the bat he was a First SGT that never wanted to get promoted to stay on the field. The just created a back story for him just like many characters. Last edited by deathvalleymachine; 08-10-2009 at 06:18 PM.. |
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Geoffrey Stone is not Dashiel Fairborn.
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This is in every way factually accurate.
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Here's one for you. Why is Duke wearing a Major's gold oak leaf on his uniform but calling himself "Captain". Unless your in the navy, two silver bars equal captain.
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