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08-11-2009, 03:27 AM | #221 |
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I watched the movie while putting down some cold ones at a MovieTavern and still....
This paramount crank-out was a disapointment even with the beer goggles on, save for the Baroness of course :o) and even hard liquor could NEVER make Rip-off Wayans funny. I want Hasbro to keep making Joes for me to collect, yes. But do I want to condone crap that ruins the whole genre, no. Bring back the 25th/ME packaging and you'll get my money and appreciation. Continue with this... and then this completist is completely (and regrettably) done. i hear that my man. |
08-11-2009, 03:55 AM | #222 |
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08-11-2009, 10:33 AM | #223 |
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i mean, if you hate reading about something that pisses you off, why in the heck would you go into a thread clearly labled with a title about something you don't want to hear about...INSANE!!... couple reasons i can think of... -trolling -baiting -ego issues -stupid -can't read titles of threads? |
08-11-2009, 10:59 AM | #224 |
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For all to read, since my Review was buried in that so called review thread, out of site = out of mind
For me, in viewing this film, has to be observed in two ways, 1) as GI Joe history/mythos set aside and for it as an action movie, 2) as a GI Joe fan and what it means to me. The rebuttal of seeing this movie through children's eyes is hogwash and analogous to watching this film with blinders on. I am not a child, are you? I am not saying that the plot was bad, in contrary it is classic good guy vs. bad guy; classic Cobra has the weapon, GI Joe has to disarm it. Anyone who has read the comic books or watched the cartoons would have done the same. All those who are unrefined towards GI Joe will see this film as an action packed sci-fi blockbuster and those who are sophisticated GI Joe fans will find errors in the sub plot and their findings will drive their opinions. This film is jammed packed with CGI special effects, has to many references to Star Wars, and is made for children. My ARAH GI Joe figs are in better shape than the actors/characters portrayed in this film. Tatum seemed childish and plastic in his Duke role, Ripcord the comic relief and the Gilligan to Tatum’s Skipper even though Hawk was the Skipper, Scarlett’s chemistry with Ripcord and lack-of with Snake Eyes, Snakes Eyes lips are too noticeable when he stands still and the children stealing and fighting back-story is reminiscent of Kun Fu Panda, Destro didn’t fit his size portrayed in the comic and cartoon line, too many Vader clichés and what’s with the gimp for the commander, “El Comadante”, Storm Shadow is mask-less through a majority of the film and puts his sword together reminiscent of Darth Maul, Zartan whistles while he works majority of his film time, and Baroness is under mind control to be bad ass and has no accent. The biggest dilemma for me was CC, Destro, and Storm Shadow being unmasked. The essence of these characters is their masks; they can be anybody. There is something fundamentally wrong by them removing their masks and displaying their ID to their enemy. So what is the point of them wearing a mask in the first place? Mask wearing equates to life-support; that is a blatant duplication of Star War. Like many others, I am a big fan of the masked characters of this toy line. For this masked men reason, the Cobra line in the 80’s became popular and remained so. In regards in putting out an anticipated film 25 years latter, you DO NOT make drastic changes to characters in this way, it’s false to the fans. Example, the gray and blue Destro varieties, he was not in the film, while the suit Destro figure is the film character, so how can the suit one be the rare variant, when he is the common in the film? Just because there is less of a certain variety, does not make it only rare. Hasbro reversed the table to collectors with respect to that. The writers/producers are obvious Star Wars fans. George Lucas must be so proud of Sommers and his homage to Star Wars through this film. Nanomites are the “FORCE” in this film, which are a resemblance to Midi-chlorians. Midi-chlorians are supernatural microorganisms “symbiotic beings living in your blood” which channels super abilities to a person and Nanomites are Robotic microorganisms that have the ability to mind control, destroy, and replicate in metallic form. Therefore, someone that is good wielding the Nanomites will do good and conversely someone that is bad wielding the Nanomites will do harm. “May the Nanomites be with you”! The scenery of the film is also reminiscent to Star Wars film location. The scene in the Arctic Circle and a polar bear is there, I was waiting for a Hoth Wampa to dart in for the kill, or the scene of the underwater base, and I was waiting for Jar Jar to swim by with a Large Dinosaur chasing him. The underwater battle scene is reminiscent to the Return of the Jedi Death Star space battle complete with a large cannon firing at everyone. I was waiting for a “Red 5 standing by” signal before the attack. Just think if they used a swamp and an underwater base, we would be on Naboo. The originality of this film is plagued by remnants from Star Wars. GI Joe in this film has been transformed into a Star Wars Sci-Fi-ish, Superhero. Therefore, originality in this film is nothing more than previously seen copies from Star Wars. This film is a blatant attempt to make more money on something we are all familiar with. The lack of source material and the cry for change through “Creative Freedom” equates to we all loss as GI Joe fans. Steven Sommers has succeeded in changing something so original as GI Joe into a Star Wars clone. Instead of G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra for the title, they should have named the film G.I. Joe: M.A.R.S. Attacks, oh wait they used that title already. Paramount is full spectrum in film making. Bottom line, Paramount puts out a Star Trek re-boot with characters that all look the same as their original counterparts, with an original plot driven script, and quality actors/acting to do the job while GI Joe has major character changes, too many Star Wars references, and less than quality actors/acting. We now know why Star Trek was released in the beginning of the summer and why GI Joe was released at the end. Star Trek was at warp factor 7 while GI Joe was at impulse drive. |
08-11-2009, 11:09 AM | #225 |
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love that review FF...there are so many good ones here...
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08-11-2009, 11:17 AM | #226 |
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I enjoyed your review too Firefly007. Im largely forgetting about the movie already and just want to get a few more figures and vehicles to add to my ME collection.
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08-11-2009, 11:23 AM | #227 |
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It is ironic that the fanbase to GI Joe get the cartoon Resolute and the kids get the live action movie. ROC is nothing more than a vehicle to sell more products. Last edited by Firefly007; 08-11-2009 at 11:26 AM.. |
08-11-2009, 11:34 AM | #228 |
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its insane that you even need to state this...lol...
i mean, if you hate reading about something that pisses you off, why in the heck would you go into a thread clearly labled with a title about something you don't want to hear about...INSANE!!... couple reasons i can think of... -trolling -baiting -ego issues -stupid -can't read titles of threads? The other funny thing is, i still have yet to hear anyone come up with a more plausible, compelling, and modern storyline without capturing the campiness and over the top drama that was this movie and is the very Gijoe we're all bound together in this forum by.....hmmmmm? Please do explain to me how 50 Gijoes in outfits that range from basketball uniforms to Cowboys and indians is gonna translate onto the big screen in 2009 without getting bashed to hell and turning it into a movie for the"fans". Essentially killing any potential for the Joe line to continue except for in your minds. And ultimately causing more harm to the name. Last edited by dj7000; 08-11-2009 at 11:40 AM.. |
08-11-2009, 12:05 PM | #229 |
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You and two or three others have been so kind of posting insults, ranting and bait in EVERY SINGLE THREAD you crossed. Even those that didn't have anything about the movie, and threads made to make peace. So, now you make your own hate thread and expect that "lovers" stay out of it? As you and the others state: we have the right to our opinion. If you bashed the movie on lovers thread, then expect they bash you in this one, is easy. And please don't claim to have only this thread. Since the movie was announced, the hate thread were plaguing the tank. There was even a "positive movie thread" and that guy a few posts ahead with the green firefly just went in there looking for trouble. Note, i'm not saying if the movie is good ar bad or if you're right or wrong, i'm just making a neutral point.
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08-11-2009, 12:28 PM | #230 |
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Why were there so many nameless, faceless Joes? With so many characters to choose from, they just basically used extras to fill the ranks of the GI Joe team? Where was Shipwreck? They went to the arctic, so where was Snow Job? Iceberg? Frostbite? They went underwater, so where was Torpedo? Deep Six? Wet Suit?
and that's why this movie failed, in my opinion. no matter how rewritten or revamped a pre-existant book, video game, or toy line might be, there is typically a large amount of the original inspiration left to build the story and the characters on top of. this went in and started from scratch. and what's the point? this was g.i. joe in name only. sure, snake eyes and storm shadows were still badass ninjas with a connected past, and sure, zartan was still a master of disguise and destro was still an arms dealer. but everything else was so maligned that had they could have (and probably should have) been better off launching an entirely new brand. not that it would have made the movie any better. |
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