|08-11-2009, 12:18 PM||#71|
I Ride with Claymore!!!
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
I thought Tatum was terrible. They changed Duke's character in the movie. By making him a younger Officer, Tatum's age didn't seem like a problem to me. What bothered me was his demeanor and his speech patterns.
He came across as a lazy grunt, not a top NCO, and especially not a professional, educated Officer. He spoke and moved like a thug. He was like a cheaper, whiter Will Smith.
To my mind, Duke has never been a multidimensional character. He simply is the Army. He never had any relationships in the Comic - he was just First Sgt. Duke. The script tried to hard to stretch that, and Tatum doesn't have the chops to do it. He came across like white trash who might be able to do a few push-ups and run a long way.
Why aren't there more Joes from the Deep South?
And would it kill Hasbro to give us a Marine Corps Officer?
|08-11-2009, 12:20 PM||#72|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Monrovia, CA
he's got the right look -- tall, muscular, square jaw. my biggest gripe is that he simply is a horrible actor. he' boring and has no screen energy whatsoever.
|08-11-2009, 03:19 PM||#73|
I AM SMEGMA
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Murphy, NC
80% of the movie was miscast. Duke was no exception.
Knowing is half the battle...the other half is 25% red lasers and 25% blue lasers.
|08-11-2009, 03:31 PM||#74|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: North Carolina
I liked the movie for better or worse but I do think he would have made a better Falcon. Duke Could have been a little older. but not as old as Hawk by no means.
|08-11-2009, 03:42 PM||#75|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Tatum's performance is my biggest complaint about ROC. He's horribly miscast. And when I say that, I don't mean he's miscast as the Duke I remember from my childhood. I mean he's miscast even for the version of Duke the movie presents.
That said, the blame cannot solely be placed on Tatum. Actors need a director that can guide them through a performance. Sommers doesn't strike me as that guy. Alot of the scenes in the film, not just with Tatum, seem rushed to me. It reminded me of watching the Star Wars prequels where it feels like, as long as an actor doesn't flub his or her lines, Lucas considers it a good take. Not much time is spent crafting a performance and developing the character. Things like inflection, body language, facial expressions can be crucial to a character and can make a world of difference on the movie as a whole. It's the director's job to get a good performance out of an actor. Sommers didn't.
|08-11-2009, 04:02 PM||#76|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Hampshire
|08-11-2009, 04:38 PM||#77|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles
lister has a point.
Tatum is a very limited actor. And Sommers is obviously not very good directing actors. He's more into the technical aspects. This is very similar to Lucas and the Star Wars prequels. The only good performances in those films are by good actors that can bring emotion to roles that aren't written that way. They realize that Lucas isn't going to guide them, but they're skilled enough to bring something to the role. Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson are skilled, and it shows. Natalie Portman is wooden, since he doesn't have any natural charisma.
Same thing with Tatum. He has no natural charisma. And he's certainly not intense. Listen to how he sounds off his men in the beginning. He barely gets the line out. It's like he doesn't care. He has no command presence which is the only trait the character of Duke requires. I felt the same way as I did about Kirk in the new Star Trek film. I don't believe anyone would follow his lead. Kirk was too emotive but showed no command ability. Duke was just boring.
I don't think they'll recast the role. However, I wouldn't be surprised, if they trim down Duke's role. I think SE will have a larger part in a sequel. I'd like to see Flint or Stalker brought in as field leader, since they both are more interesting characters.
Regarding BSG's Helo as Duke? No way. Helo just looks too pouty. He's like a male Renee Zellewiger. And he looks even less like Duke than Tatum.
|08-11-2009, 04:40 PM||#78|
Spartan F5 Viper
Join Date: Sep 2008
I liked him.
He did feel as if he really did not want to be on the set though.
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|08-11-2009, 04:42 PM||#79|
Join Date: Oct 2008
I just wonder why the heck his parents would name him Channing? Channing? Seriously, that's his name? I wonder if he got beat up a lot in school?
|08-11-2009, 04:42 PM||#80|
Join Date: Jan 2009
I liked how he had that urban flavor to his speech. Real Duke qualities. He was the white boy who's straight out the hood.
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