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07-26-2009, 06:37 PM | #71 |
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I'm not an ROC hater (though I really dislike certain aspects), but I was one of those who had little use for Vipers. When Resolute chose an updated version of the Trooper for its Cobra footsoldiers, did anyone complain that it was step backwards?
Some of the proponents of ROC have gotten as bad as its detractors in these arguments. Suddenly, every change has become long overdue and any one who thinks otherwise is ridiculed as also wanting Gung Ho, Wild Bill, and Spirit to show up dressed in their "Revenge of Cobra" outfits. Is there no room for a middle ground? I think making Joe an international force is fine and that their new logo is cool, but at the same time have little for the the new look of CC and the Vipers. Because of this, some would say I'm "not a true fan" while others would say "I'm stuck in a Fatal Fluffy timewarp." Kinda frustrating... Resolute was the middle ground to me. |
07-26-2009, 06:58 PM | #72 |
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Wow I guess I screwed up some here. I confused some by starting this thread under the movie heading, so they think I attack the movie. I stated that I have a problem with the look of roc cc and the turtle vipers and some felt I was attacking everything roc. Suddenly I'm a hate monger and elitist. I just wanted those who felt the way I do to chime in and those who don't to maybe explain their fascination with these "awesome figures". I suppose I simply misrepresented myself. Oh well, I don't hate anyone, just the aforementioned figs.
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07-26-2009, 07:17 PM | #73 |
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I think we should all look at it as 2 different dimensions of the Joe universe. The original 'cartoon' style, and the new 'movie' style. Both moving forward parralel to eachother. In my opinion the poster that mentioned the lasers and parachuting out of EVERY destroyed aircraft was right on. You just cant make a movie straight from the cartoon, it needs to be updated and readapted. I think the movie looks awesome, and I love the new figs, but that doesnt mean I dont love the 25th style and didnt love Resolute. Isnt there room for both? I collect ROC, ARAH, and the 25th stuff. And I love them all. But I dont hate on anyone that feels differently than I do. At the same time, everyone has a right to their own opinion, so if someone wants to post about how much the movie will suck, and how wack the new figs are, thats cool too because, at the end of the day, does it really matter what anyone else thinks? Collect what you like, pass on what you dont. We're all part of a collecting community, we all enjoy interacting with other people who share the same interests, theres no reason to bash EACHOTHER.
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07-26-2009, 07:30 PM | #74 |
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It's easy for me to like most of the movie stuff, I have no particular attachment to the G.I.Joe story.It's kind of like how I love the character Deadpool but dislike all the stories I've seen him in so far. I like Cobra, G.I.Joe and all that jazz more for what it could be than for the cartoons(Other than Resolute, Res was just awesome) or the comics.
So while at first I didn't like some of the designs, now allot of them have grown on me.(I'm not trying to complete the line but ironically the only figures in the movie line I've passed on so far are Torpedo and Barbecue). The movie Cobra commander will never ever be cobra commander to me but he will be an awesome new character for my "verse". The movie "Vipers" are no where near as awesome as the old Vipers and I won't be really army building them(well ok I do like the Elite-Viper allot). On the other hand I like the Joes designs more than the old ones. One of the big problems I've had with G.I.Joe was that the Joe team never looked like a proper team, now they do. Yeah they could be better,but still they finally look like a group. Unlike most people though I actually think the camo the Joe team uses is fine since they seem to do allot of urban fighting. My main problem is that the reactive armor is solid black. Oh and these figures are great for customizing. Other than having some very interesting parts it seems that in general they are more flexible, its kinda crazy that Duke can actually hold his gun now. Lastly ... come on Dennis Quaid is friggen Gen. Hawk. that's just awesome. Ray Park as Snake Eyes, and Quaid as Hawk, if the movie flops and they do a Reboot I'll still want to see these guys stay on as their characters.
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07-26-2009, 07:30 PM | #75 |
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My friends and I -some big joe fans, some not- all agree that its just another hollywood shitstain of a movie capitalizing on the past successes of futuristic/hi-tech films like Iron Man and Transformers.
Yes its the 21st century but I dont think that means that every soldier should be Tony Stark/Iron Man. No matter what any delusional tanker would think, the Joe team is a Military Unit! I am not convinced that -as advanced as military hardware is -that any unit would wear something as impractical as a brushed steel or chrome armor suit to engage the enemy. I am only speaking for myself of course but I would be alot more impressed with a team that relies on skill rather than flash to thwart the enemy. The artist in me (I teach it for a living) is absolutely appalled with the Cobra Commander mask. With a design that was (let's face it) originally over-the-top yet (yet simple!) I am surprised the studio felt the need to conjure a new design. For all my ranting on the subject Ill close by saying it's not fuckin Halo, It's not Iron Man it sure as shit shouldnt be Transformers. Give me camo, give me state-of-the art MILITARY gear and weaponry. Give us GIJOE!!!!! |
07-26-2009, 07:35 PM | #76 |
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I gotta agree...cc looks like total dog poop but the viper arent bad. I didnt like em at first but after picking up a coupe at the tru sale i am up to 5 vipers and one viper commando leading the squad. Over all the figures arent bad. My faves are SGT STONE, HELIX and PIT COMMANDO AKA ROC DUSTY. some others are cool too but those are easily my 3 faves. need more pitt commandos.
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07-26-2009, 07:40 PM | #77 |
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My friends and I -some big joe fans, some not- all agree that its just another hollywood shitstain of a movie capitalizing on the past successes of futuristic/hi-tech films like Iron Man and Transformers.
Yes its the 21st century but I dont think that means that every soldier should be Tony Stark/Iron Man. No matter what any delusional tanker would think, the Joe team is a Military Unit! I am not convinced that -as advanced as military hardware is -that any unit would wear something as impractical as a brushed steel or chrome armor suit to engage the enemy. I am only speaking for myself of course but I would be alot more impressed with a team that relies on skill rather than flash to thwart the enemy. The artist in me (I teach it for a living) is absolutely appalled with the Cobra Commander mask. With a design that was (let's face it) originally over-the-top yet (yet simple!) I am surprised the studio felt the need to conjure a new design. For all my ranting on the subject Ill close by saying it's not fuckin Halo, It's not Iron Man it sure as shit shouldnt be Transformers. Give me camo, give me state-of-the art MILITARY gear and weaponry. Give us GIJOE!!!!!
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07-26-2009, 07:42 PM | #78 |
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A world of pain.
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07-26-2009, 07:48 PM | #79 |
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I'd just like to take a moment & remind people the term fan is short for fanatic.
K, you can all go back to what you were doing now.
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07-26-2009, 07:50 PM | #80 |
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I was not too keen on the vipers at all at first, but after the Crimson ones came out, I loved them.Now the Nano Viper pics are released and those are killer...must have several of those.
Oh, BTW Bionic Commando, I am not a Star Wars figure fan...but I did buy the re-build darth vador set for the examination table. |
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