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10-09-2018, 10:21 AM | #21 |
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Yep... Those ‘SJWs’ hate the military. That’s why there weren’t any soldiers in the Transformers movies, and that’s why ‘Call of Duty’ was such a flop....
I mean, for fuck's sake, you do realize that the Transformers movies are 90-minute recruiting commercials? And that people lined up the block to watch them anyway? Michael Bay consistently made billion-dollar box offices off those things... But you still insist the problem is people won't watch military movies. Yeah. You people are living in some kind of alternate reality.
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10-09-2018, 12:38 PM | #22 |
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Yep... Those ‘SJWs’ hate the military. That’s why there weren’t any soldiers in the Transformers movies, and that’s why ‘Call of Duty’ was such a flop....
I mean, for fuck's sake, you do realize that the Transformers movies are 90-minute recruiting commercials? And that people lined up the block to watch them anyway? Michael Bay consistently made billion-dollar box offices off those things... But you still insist the problem is people won't watch military movies. Yeah. You people are living in some kind of alternate reality. If I were to do what some are doing (making generalizations), using the term 'social justice warrior' would paint someone as a Trump loving, racist, homophobe. Now, I dont think most people who use the SJW term are any of those things. Heres the cool thing about people. We are complex creatures. I am liberal (you probably would classify me as a SJW - speaking of which, why should wanting everyone to be treated equally and with respect held in such poor reguard that it becomes an insult?), but love guns, military vehicles, aircraft, tech. I vote for those horrible democrats but respect John McCain and a few republicans. I support Black Lives Matters and work with and respect cops. I love this country, but am ashamed of things it has done. Sorry man, but a few people were right. This is not the 1980's. Nationalism and loving America is differnt now. Nationalism should not mean I love America and f**k everyobe else. Nationalism should not be worshiped, patriotism should be what we strive for: we should live this country, but understand and see that we are leaders to the world. We should help the people who are in need because its the right thing to do. Be a role model to the world. Where am i going with this? The world isnt going to want to watch a 1980's style movie that is nationalistic and has a message that says 'America yes, anyone else is our enemies. Top gun was a good movie, in its time. If you watch it again, its very cheesy and hokey because its so dated in its nationalism and end of cold war reminders. ROC had some parts right, but the execution was poor. The Joes should be an American Special Forces team that has international fighters. There are things the US does well, but there are things other countries do well. I would love to have Russian, Israeli, and British special forces on the joe team. M. Bay may have made 'billions' off of his pro military movies, but it that does not make the movies good. I dont recall people lined around the block to watch the last few poorly written Transformer movies. If they were kined up, it would be to watch giant transforming robots, not because they feature the US Military. Last edited by nightrattler; 10-09-2018 at 01:00 PM.. |
10-09-2018, 12:55 PM | #23 |
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Chill out man and quit with the broad generalizations.
If I were to do what you are doing (making generalizations), using the term 'social justice warrior' would paint you as a Trump loving, racist, homophobe. Now, I dont think you are any of those things. Heres the cool thing about people. We are complex creatures. I am liberal (you probably would classify me as a SJW - speaking of which, why should wanting everyone to be treated equally and with respect held in such poor reguard that it becomes an insult?), but Love guns, military vcles, a
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10-09-2018, 01:34 PM | #24 |
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I wasnt offended. The SJW thing just bugs me as it just gets thrown around without really thinking about it and it bugs me. Which i guess is the point by the people who sling it around. Last edited by nightrattler; 10-09-2018 at 01:37 PM.. |
10-09-2018, 01:59 PM | #25 |
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Also it should be said that one big reason Michael Bay prominently and patriotically features the military in his movies is not out of some love of country, but because he gets free stuff from the government for his movies, which makes it cheaper to make so it helps the bottom line. There's a department in the Army that you can submit your screenplay to to get "cooperation" i.e. free vehicles and troops to show up in your movies if they approve of the script.
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10-16-2018, 09:13 AM | #26 |
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Well GI Joe has a history with wrestlers...
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11-01-2018, 02:55 AM | #27 |
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Nationalism should not be worshiped, patriotism should be what we strive for: we should live this country, but understand and see that we are leaders to the world. We should help the people who are in need because its the right thing to do. Be a role model to the world.
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ROC had some parts right, but the execution was poor. The Joes should be an American Special Forces team that has international fighters. There are things the US does well, but there are things other countries do well. I would love to have Russian, Israeli, and British special forces on the joe team.
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Also it should be said that one big reason Michael Bay prominently and patriotically features the military in his movies is not out of some love of country, but because he gets free stuff from the government for his movies, which makes it cheaper to make so it helps the bottom line. There's a department in the Army that you can submit your screenplay to to get "cooperation" i.e. free vehicles and troops to show up in your movies if they approve of the script.
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11-02-2018, 02:56 AM | #28 |
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Here's the best answer to the thread's question, No.
G.I. Joe is in Bumblebee as much as the Dire Wraiths from Rom are in the Last Knight. |
11-02-2018, 09:42 AM | #29 |
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Aren’t you the evidence guy? Don’t see how a definitive “no” can be given.
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