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01-25-2008, 05:03 PM | #1 |
Iron Grenadier
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For the Record, I would not mind at all if we saw huge non-verbal character cameos throughout the film...action battles around the globe with several dif' Joe and Cobra team members. 50 Joe Code-Name mentions throughout the film and throw in 5000 Cobra Troopers in the final battle scene on Cobra Island...
I guess if you ask for a whole lot, they might be willing to bend and give us a little...lol |
01-25-2008, 09:53 PM | #2 |
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Oh, I don't think it will be epic-scale in that sense. I don't think you'll see battles like that at all. The film will have an epic scope as far as locations go. That is: we'll get to see the Joe team working in several different theaters of operation.
But I don't think Cobra will be an army in the sense you propose (like in the comics or the cartoon), nor do I think there will be a Cobra "nation". I see Cobra's army as a more subtle thing: they're among us. They are terrorists after all. They hide. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I doubt we'll see any big scale all-out-war battles between Joes and Cobras, as if we were talking Alies VS Axis. Not only I doubt it: I wouldn't want it. I hope we do get Springfield though. That isn't too far-fetched for a more realistic film adaptation. It's just a town that has a very strong Cobra presence. And personally, I don't want to see a shitload of cameos either. In fact, the less the better. Otherwise you lose focus. This shouldn't be a fan-wank film. This should be a solid film for everyone. If Sgt. Slaughter shows up for a cameo and the sole purpose of this is comic relief... well, that just sucks. Sorry to shit on your parade!!! LOL Better to be honest though.
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01-26-2008, 01:42 AM | #3 |
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Originally Posted by Gentleman
Oh, I don't think it will be epic-scale in that sense. I don't think you'll see battles like that at all. The film will have an epic scope as far as locations go. That is: we'll get to see the Joe team working in several different theaters of operation.
But I don't think Cobra will be an army in the sense you propose (like in the comics or the cartoon), nor do I think there will be a Cobra "nation". I see Cobra's army as a more subtle thing: they're among us. They are terrorists after all. They hide. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I doubt we'll see any big scale all-out-war battles between Joes and Cobras, as if we were talking Alies VS Axis. Not only I doubt it: I wouldn't want it. I hope we do get Springfield though. That isn't too far-fetched for a more realistic film adaptation. It's just a town that has a very strong Cobra presence. And personally, I don't want to see a shitload of cameos either. In fact, the less the better. Otherwise you lose focus. This shouldn't be a fan-wank film. This should be a solid film for everyone. If Sgt. Slaughter shows up for a cameo and the sole purpose of this is comic relief... well, that just sucks. Sorry to shit on your parade!!! LOL Better to be honest though. |
01-26-2008, 07:05 AM | #4 |
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I would definitely love to see some cameos of lower-rung characters like Dusty, Cutter, Footloose, Bazooka, Short-Fuse, Tripwire, Doc, etc.
However, I'd rather these be kept to a minimum, as there will need to be some new cameos in future films. I don't want cameos of more prominent characters, though (Gung-Ho, Flint, Lady Jaye, Firefly, etc.). I'd rather see them get the big screen treatment in a later film where they can really shine.
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01-26-2008, 12:40 PM | #5 |
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Originally Posted by CynthiaCM
I would definitely love to see some cameos of lower-rung characters like Dusty, Cutter, Footloose, Bazooka, Short-Fuse, Tripwire, Doc, etc.
However, I'd rather these be kept to a minimum, as there will need to be some new cameos in future films. I don't want cameos of more prominent characters, though (Gung-Ho, Flint, Lady Jaye, Firefly, etc.). I'd rather see them get the big screen treatment in a later film where they can really shine. That would be pretty cool, leave characters like Flint, Lady Jaye, Roadblock and the Evil Twins as new characters for future films |
01-26-2008, 12:50 PM | #6 |
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Sorry to shit on your parade but what the heck is GIJOE to you then? Why make a Joe movie if its not about the Joe Universe...
G.I.Joe probably doesn't mean the same to you as it means to me. Everyone's got a different opinion of what G.I.Joe "is". BUT... I can tell you this: I, for one, DO NOT want to see a copycat of the toon or the comic. I want a new take, keeping the essence. If *I* were in charge of this project, I'd aim at realism (as much as possible). You may not like it, but it is what *I* would do. Film (live-action) is a new format for G.I.Joe and there is no reason why the makers shouldn't try new things. That doesn't mean they can screw with the essence of the mythos as they please. Of course not. Just saying. An epic battle between joes and cobra troops does not a G.I.Joe film make... TO ME I picture the Joe movie team as a very elite, low-numbered team and Cobra as a very "behind the scenes" organization that is gaining momentum. Yes, maybe they could be based on some island. Yes, maybe the Joe team does confront quite a few troops or mercenaries (like if we were talking Rambo VS some guerrilla). I just don't see grand-scale battles happening and I wouldn't want them either. But that's just *me* Quote:
Originally Posted by deathvalleymachine
as for the Sarge, that is pretty smart on your part to come up with something original like that, come on buddy - look at the big picture...
I used Sgt. Slaughter as an example because I've seen many fans asking for it. I, myself, am up for it too... AS LONG as it doesn't take away from the film's narrative. That's what I was trying to say: sometimes cameos can turn against you if mis-used. Especially if it's for laughs. I sorta got this feeling from Bruce Campbell's cameos in the 3 Spiderman films. First time was OK (as the announcer of the wrestling matches). Third time, as the waiter, was already too much. If cameos will be used for a good purpose... then why not? Just hoping the makers are focused on the film itself rather than this kind of thing. Geez folks. Realize that not everyone wants the same things. I AM pissed about Wayans being Ripcord, but at the same time I'm open to new concepts and ideas. As long as they are for better!
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01-26-2008, 09:16 PM | #7 |
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Hey, I'm sorry if I sounded offensive. When I was done writing my post and realized I was against all of your proposals, I just felt like joking about "shitting on your parade". I thought the "LOL" would suffice. Anyways...
G.I.Joe probably doesn't mean the same to you as it means to me. Everyone's got a different opinion of what G.I.Joe "is". BUT... I can tell you this: I, for one, DO NOT want to see a copycat of the toon or the comic. I want a new take, keeping the essence. If *I* were in charge of this project, I'd aim at realism (as much as possible). You may not like it, but it is what *I* would do. Film (live-action) is a new format for G.I.Joe and there is no reason why the makers shouldn't try new things. That doesn't mean they can screw with the essence of the mythos as they please. Of course not. Just saying. An epic battle between joes and cobra troops does not a G.I.Joe film make... TO ME I picture the Joe movie team as a very elite, low-numbered team and Cobra as a very "behind the scenes" organization that is gaining momentum. Yes, maybe they could be based on some island. Yes, maybe the Joe team does confront quite a few troops or mercenaries (like if we were talking Rambo VS some guerrilla). I just don't see grand-scale battles happening and I wouldn't want them either. But that's just *me* Huh? Don't know whatcha talkin' bout here. I used Sgt. Slaughter as an example because I've seen many fans asking for it. I, myself, am up for it too... AS LONG as it doesn't take away from the film's narrative. That's what I was trying to say: sometimes cameos can turn against you if mis-used. Especially if it's for laughs. I sorta got this feeling from Bruce Campbell's cameos in the 3 Spiderman films. First time was OK (as the announcer of the wrestling matches). Third time, as the waiter, was already too much. If cameos will be used for a good purpose... then why not? Just hoping the makers are focused on the film itself rather than this kind of thing. Geez folks. Realize that not everyone wants the same things. I AM pissed about Wayans being Ripcord, but at the same time I'm open to new concepts and ideas. As long as they are for better! |
01-26-2008, 10:25 PM | #8 |
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the notion that the GIJOE team is much bigger than shown in the film and have small hints and mentions throughout depicting that (in any way shape or form).
Sure, why not. Again, as long as they do it because they believe it works for the film and the new "universe" / "continuity" they'll be establishing, and not just to please the fans... then I'm sure it will be great.
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01-26-2008, 10:34 PM | #9 |
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I too like the idea of some cameo references, but also leaving some key players to join the team in later movies (it's not like the comics started with all the characters at once either).
Now this does assume that there will be other movies. If this flops like the Golden Compass did, we may see a lot of loose ends and lost opportunities. But IF more get made, this is the way to go. Keep your core players and add and subtract other key parts as you go. A lot of people have compared what this movie could be to the Transformers, which makes sense since that was a similar toy based flick. But I think it fits better with X-Men, another Marvel property, that was handled by introducing core characters up front, then additional key characters in later movies. It also required a strong ensemble cast, and showed how to work in multiple characters, like the Joe movie will need to do. |
01-26-2008, 11:08 PM | #10 |
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In fact, I think DiBonaventura or Goldner described this as "X-Men meets Mission Impossible".
...I think?
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