|05-23-2009, 05:24 AM||#31|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Haha. Duke doesn't get the respect he desreves at times, I agree.
And I like the evil Storm Shadow of Resolute, just not nearly a much as the original, conflicted SS. It's nostalgia at it's worst. Comparitivly, it just feels like something is missing, ie, Diet.
See, and SPOILERS, I understand that Duke and Baroness aren't right but the Ana/Baroness mind control personality thing explains it to me. In a way, she is with both, yet neither Destro and Duke.
Agree wholey on the Ripcord/Wayans thing.
And yeah, SE steals the show too much. But I think that the IDW comic actually underuses him. I'm fine with him being a main character (no the MAIN character like the Marvel run more or less), but there are two issues he doesn't appear, one of which he was on the cover, the other, it was advertised as the issue where he "returned", so I was kinda bummed at that.
As for Duke, I agree, I like the hard nosed guy, and Resolute made me love him. The end with CC was great, and almost made up for the "oh, and then this happened" ending... I hated what they turned him into in the DDP run, though there were a couple of moments.
And yeah, to your original point, SE and SS will always eed/have each other as characters, I just wish they could actually do SOMETHING without each other, you know? I get it, their histories are entwined, but I can think of any other pair that's been so exclusive in any other ensemble cast. I mean, even Wolverine and Sabertooth branched out from each other in the X-Men comics.
Good lord, there is just way too much X-men resemblence with Joe.
Prof X- Hawk. Hell, Hawk was even crippled (SPOILERS___is in the script, too!)
Magneto-Cobra Commander (both sometimes think they're doing the right thing, have huge egos, prolly insane, etc...)
Mystique-Zartan (are they good, bad? Infiltrators, etc...)
Am I missing anyone else, lol.
|05-23-2009, 05:33 AM||#32|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Looking back, that's why I liked Spirit being a foil to Stormshadow. I appreciated the honor system in which they fought. I like that Strmshadow is a villain yet has respect for his enemies... Something which the Resolute story lacked, though it may have been implied by his monologue before their fight.
I Agree with you, I would like to see their characters be used for other purposes yet I just don't see it happening. Possible? Yes, but there are stories that are so ingrained that the risk of moving away from them in monumental. Hasbro killed off Optimus Prime and HAD to rewrite the future of the series to bring him back in order to placate fans. Duke certainly takes a lot of guff, but remove him from the oe team as leader and there will be complaints.... there were almost when he "died" in the movie.
The best way to shake up the SE/SS story line is to change their back story, which appears to be he case.
I'd prefer their meetings be rare to keep it fresh. Both have jobs to do and occasionally their paths cros, but they don't go out of their way to find one another. Neither Joe not Cobra would allow one of their operatives to go on persoanl vendettas for any reason...not when they could be better used elsewhere. Neither may get a good foil as they are to each other, but limiting their shared screen/page time would go a long way.
And as far as using both in small quantities... I mean to keep them as main characters but not focus on any one hero/villian for too long. Snake Eyes keeps his coolness factor or would be even more in demand were he to be used sparingly. Much like Boba FEtt (I'm not saying THAT sparingly but to show my point) was HUGELY popular, if he were used too much he would lose some of his edge as a favorite. Snake Eyes IS the uber ninja and that will never change. But that also limits his story... if he can kick all forms of ass, then only another ninja is going to be able to fight him thus making SE and SS always together.
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|05-23-2009, 10:03 PM||#33|
Join Date: Mar 2008
I would really be okay with Marlon Wayans hitting on Scarlett and her coming to tolerate him. I just don't want the kiss to hapen. Snake Eyes obviously seems to have feeling for her according to Di Bonavenutra. With Storm Shadow gone after this film (didn't he get killed in the script?) I think all three characters could depth from a hinted triangle that's not resolved untill the third film. Of course the "Snake Eyes is like a brother" Scarlett/Wayans will resolve it in this one. I hope Hama took that out.
|05-27-2009, 01:44 AM||#34|
Join Date: May 2009
|05-29-2009, 02:15 PM||#35|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Hidden Nebula
I like the Boba Fett comparison. I remember waiting three years between "Empire" and "Jedi" to see the showdown between Han Solo and Fett ... only to see it horribly mishandled in the first half hour of "Jedi." The point is, they introduced a mysterious character, set him up as a nemesis to one of the heroes, and left us guessing and anticipating the resolution until the next sequel. That's how they should've handled SE and SS.
|05-29-2009, 03:18 PM||#36|
Join Date: May 2008
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