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01-20-2008, 12:55 PM | #31 |
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Personnally, I (and my son) want to be entertained...period!!!! I could care less what the critics or anyone else has to say about the film. As long as we come out of the theatre and I see a big smile on his face and he asks me if there'll be a sequel, I'll be happy!
Just like Transformers was, GI Joe will be huge and fun and over the top. And in the real world where the money is made, that's all that matters. Complain all you want, that's what it's really about to big hollywood - huge and profitable, not artistic. Joe will be an adrenaline buzz of fast action, cool cgi and effects and lots of stuff going boom! (the definition of a blockbuster) Big F-ing Robots, remember? Now were talking mad F-ing Ninjas, crazy firefights, wicked awesome new vehicles, etc, etc, etc... And we'll be lining up to give hollywood our $10 each to watch it over and over, just like Transformers. Then we'll go right over to Walmart to buy our kids some Joe toys, just like Transformers. You catching the theme here? So, I suppose if you didn't fancy Transformers, you might as well stay home, but you won't... and Hasbro and Paramount know that already... and that's just plain reality. |
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01-20-2008, 01:00 PM | #32 |
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You catching the theme here? So, I suppose if you didn't fancy Transformers, you might as well stay home, but you won't... and Hasbro and Paramount know that already... and that's just plain reality.
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01-20-2008, 01:05 PM | #33 |
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Sysiss, the TRANSFORMERS did suck, period. the movie was basically a car commercial and a nerdy kid with eyeglasses and a hot chick.
do you know why Frank Miller's movies do so well? 300 & Sin City, because he makes them JUST LIKE THE COMIC. he's not trying to appease to every generation. he makes it one way, the right way, they are awesome and people love it. those movies are already classics in my eyes. so you can stop all that nonsense talk. Quote:
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Look, it's possible to deliver a genre film and deliver a quality film. That's all I ask. Chris Nolan did it. Robert Rodriguez did it. Zack Snyder did it. Bryan Singer has done it with two properties, although his second attempt would have been better in a new continuity. Guillermo del Toro has done it with two franchises. David Slade did it (with some screenwriting help from Stuart Beattie, no less). Only two of those guys accomplished that by sticking exclusively to the original source material. I'm not personally asking for a 100% adaptation of the comics; I just want quality.
as for the "source material," Transformers had a comic before the cartoon and yet most people view the cartoon as its source material more than the comic, so which came first hardly dictates such. ultimately, the source material will always be the toys themselves first and foremost, and they are a blank slate of characters that can be fit into any new storyline, or can encompass elements of its past story lines from the cartoon or comic. but doing so doesn't violate or contradict any source material because G.I. Joe is and always has been an entity that simply evolves from time to time and doesn't stick to one story beyond the broad concept of G.I. Joe vs Cobra. |
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01-20-2008, 01:09 PM | #34 |
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I stayed home for Michael Bay's garbage, but feel free to try again.
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01-20-2008, 01:15 PM | #35 |
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but you can have quality while being on the lighter side and geared towards children as well. having debated this with your, it seems your source of contention is that you prefer a more "mature" story. well, these are toys we are ultimately talking about, the very antithesis of maturity. this is a movie meant to appeal to a broad audience (which is probably hoped to be significantly comprised of children who will carry toy sales like most movie toy lines). as such, it is going to have a lighter, comedic side (much like Transformers), and will probably be more of an adventure movie not an action movie (much like Stephen Sommers Mummy films). as such, it will contain typical movie contrivances and formulas so that the broad movie going audience finds it easy to watch and enjoy. comedic sidekicks and the emotional relationships between the characters that we have all heard so far fit that bill perfectly. G.I. Joe is not Batman, there is nothing dark or brooding about it, and it isn't Die Hard or Rambo either with violent battles attempting to portray plausible real world threats. G.I. Joe is a movie based on a childs toy whose popularity was arguably carried strongly by a cartoon, so a cartoonish movie should be expected. at some point, we all need to step out of our adult boots when we analyze G.I. Joe and look at it honestly for what it is, a childs toy.
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the "you" is the general collective movie going "you" that he is talking about
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01-20-2008, 01:32 PM | #36 |
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I stayed home for Michael Bay's garbage, but feel free to try again.
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01-20-2008, 02:01 PM | #37 |
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X-Men did very well without being specifically aimed at children, as did Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 (I won't go into a discussion about the third). I seem to recall a lot of Spider-toys being sold over the last few years, too, so you could have saved yourself a lot of typing.
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01-20-2008, 02:27 PM | #38 |
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Understood. So you are the one guy on this continent that has not seen that movie. But, answer me this, would you sit out a GI Joe blockbuster based on someone else's opinion and second hand knowledge?
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there is a huge cultural difference, historically and recently, between X-Men & Spiderman and G.I. Joe, so you could have saved yourself the typing as well, unless your only point was to either display your ignorance or dishonesty. your arrogance is really tiresome, especially when it continuously reflects your ignorance and need to simplify arguments to their most basic factors and attempt to dishonestly create similarities where more dynamics exist.
Cultural difference? Get real, and save the feigned erudition for someone stupid enough to fall for it. I'm talking about quality in genre films. It is a simple concept, and suggesting otherwise is the only exercise in intellectual dishonesty that's been posted to this thread. You don't have any working knowledge or profound insight to offer, but if you want to keep pretending that you do, be my guest. I'll just keep having a laugh at your expense. Please don't ever believe that feeble insults from the likes of you are going to bother me, though. If you want to personally offend me, you're going to have to earn it, and it's painfully obvious that you don't have it in you. Last edited by Compulsive Collector; 01-20-2008 at 02:36 PM.. |
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I will more than likely wait for the reviews on here from certain key members, who I value their opinions, before I waste my time with this film. Regardless if I like the film or not, I still hope it does really well.
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Regardless if I like the film or not, I still hope it does really well.
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