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05-06-2009, 10:32 AM | #11 |
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This movie will suck because most of us have had 27 years to build up what we expected a GI Joe live-action movie to be. We've had movies modeled after GI Joe (Megaforce anyone?) that have made us hungrier for GI Joe. We have a set imagination of what it should be. And those ideas differ from person to person. Now that it doesn't match with that, we have problems with everything.
But that's the problem in and of itself. You have an idea of what the movie should look like, I have a different view, and so does everyone who ever played...err collected the ARAH line. If I gave you the Joes in the movie to play with, you would have a total different storyline than the one I would have. No two people would play exactly the same. For example, I read the comics first so Hawk was always my leader. My best friend watched the cartoons first and Duke was his leader. Did that make me wrong or him wrong? No. We just had a difference of opinion. How many boys in the 80s played with GI Joe? I would dare say 75% of them did, so that's how many different viewpoints of what the movie could or should be? This is one person's vision. I mean when Doc and the others died to the SAW Viper in the Marvel line, did they no longer exist in your world? Was Sergeant Slaughter your commander? No. Those were visions of one person or a group of people who took the idea of GI Joe and ran with it. I for one am excited about the movie..if for no other reason than it has Hawk as the leader of GI Joe. Last edited by BigFore; 05-06-2009 at 10:36 AM.. Reason: Too many typos |
05-06-2009, 10:52 AM | #12 |
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Ripchord is a Wayans brother! Cobra Commanders mask! Brandon as Gung Ho! Heavy Duty but NO Roadblock! JOe uniforms are from that crappy movie S.W.A.T.! MOVIES WILL SUCK!!!!!!!! GIJOE ended with American Elite!!!!!
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05-06-2009, 10:59 AM | #13 |
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As per the ROC Wiki page, Fraser is not Gung-Ho, but just a "refugee from the Village People". It also notes that the accelerator suits will be toned down in any potential sequels.
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05-06-2009, 11:05 AM | #14 |
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The thing that annoyed me the most about it was that the Red Skull was Italian. That made 0 sense to me.
i will say that the costume wasn't that terrible and it was faithful to the comics in that sense. |
05-06-2009, 11:06 AM | #15 |
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Reasons why- as usual, gotta answer it everytime
1) Power suits instead of standard indentifiable gear and color schemes to make the uniqueness of each character stand out so the kiddies won't get confused. See Resolute for proper execution and a good way to update on an already impecable idea. 2) Wayanes is not Ripcord. Call him Paracute Guy or Wisecracks, not Ripcord 3) Destro- Looks like willy wonka 4) Cobra COmmander- Burnt Leathery Sushi anyone? 5) Turtle Vipers- best flushed down the toilet 6) Braoness has to be rescued by Duke? WTF 7) Inevtiable love scene of Duke and Baroness does not reflect well on the McCullen Estate and family business 8) MARS is the driving factor of Cobra currenlty and Destro is to dominate of a role over C0bra Commander- See Resolute for proper execution once again... 9) Sommers- Geta clue, go away and never touch my Joes again! My mom won't let you ever come over again! 10) No HISS tanks, No MARS vehicles cept mole pods, No joe vehicles, where is the MOBATS and USS Flagg? We get the winobego of doom and call it the PITT.... 11) SNake Eye's has lips- Lame move on 12) Storm Shadow looks like EMO Brother in bleached dominatrix clothing 13) WTH DID YOU DO TO THE NIGHT RAVEN! Nuff said... |
05-06-2009, 11:08 AM | #16 |
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The problem is if u stick with the original characters..you get another streetfighter. If you go futuristic,like roc seems to be, it's not really the essence of GiJoe. Either way, we dont get an accurate version of GIjoe transferred to the big screen via live action. Maybe that's the answer in and of itself.
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05-06-2009, 11:13 AM | #17 |
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if it were a mega-force remake...it wouldnt be getting shit upon so.
for some reason, some joe fans are just impossible to change. hope they dont apply that character flaw to everything else in their lives....cuz its going to be bumpy ride if they do. |
05-06-2009, 11:17 AM | #18 |
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The problem is if u stick with the original characters..you get another streetfighter. If you go futuristic,like roc seems to be, it's not really the essence of GiJoe. Either way, we dont get an accurate version of GIjoe transferred to the big screen via live action. Maybe that's the answer in and of itself.
You could easily have had the existing characters be recognizable. They could have expanded the concept of Resolute's characters for example, including the costumes, and had a very enjoyable film without getting anywhere close to Street Fighter-y. They could have gone futuristic without being so... generic and modern, and still retained the essence of GI Joe as well. Joe has always been futuristic, and even cheesy, it just didn't look and feel like "Starship Troopers in Paris" before.
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05-06-2009, 11:29 AM | #19 |
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ut that's the problem in and of itself. You have an idea of what the movie should look like, I have a different view, and so does everyone who ever played...err collected the ARAH line. If I gave you the Joes in the movie to play with, you would have a total different storyline than the one I would have. No two people would play exactly the same. For example, I read the comics first so Hawk was always my leader. My best friend watched the cartoons first and Duke was his leader. Did that make me wrong or him wrong? No. We just had a difference of opinion.
How many boys in the 80s played with GI Joe? I would dare say 75% of them did, so that's how many different viewpoints of what the movie could or should be? Look, making Duke the leader instead of Hawk or vice versa, most of us could handle either way. Having Destro be a part of Cobra or a separate entity, we can handle. Even having the ninjas grow up together, it's a departure from the original story, but not really problematic. But what they've given us is nowhere close to recognizable as GI Joe. The look is different - it's slick, black, and extremely generic. The team names and a few character names have been lifted from the original Joe, but the the entire backstory of every single character has been fubar'd beyond recognition, with the sole exception that SE and SS are still ninjas. That's literally the only thing that has remained the same. I think they could have brought a recognizable Joe to the big screen without changing everything. Resolute did a great job of changing and updating, but most aspects were recognizable as Joe. There were aspects I didn't like personally (Duke and Scarlett?!), but overall nearly every fan had positive things to say about it. The movie should have, and could have, done the same thing.
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05-06-2009, 11:32 AM | #20 |
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really there are many many issues i have with this movie...overall though, it looks more like they just wanted to cash in on the Joe name and took all the "cool" things (in Hollywoods eyes) and mashed them into this movie... - Robot/superhero looking suits - robot/superhero moves/flips/dives etc. everyone complains that the old toon was too campy and goofy...tell me how this movie isn't those things...i wanted realism...instead we get dudes who can defy physics...talk'n bout you SE... |
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