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01-30-2008, 12:54 AM | #41 |
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Originally Posted by deathvalleymachine
the fact of the matter is they are not sticking to the origin if Marlon is to play Ripcord, not to mention LDB stated he reconizes that anything but the origin will be failure....my bet is still a placeholder name for Stalker...
It is a big difference from the cartoon when Ripcord was a pale skinned red head but who knows, Marlon may make a good ripcord. I think they should have gotten Conan O' Brian to play him... |
01-30-2008, 01:06 AM | #42 |
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the fact of the matter is they are not sticking to the origin if Marlon is to play Ripcord, not to mention LDB stated he reconizes that anything but the origin will be failure....my bet is still a placeholder name for Stalker...
They're not sticking too much to the origin, since the original took place in the 80's and the movie is set to take place in the future. Something like 10 years from now. |
01-30-2008, 01:09 AM | #43 |
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Let's see:
1. Harvey Dent was black in Batman. 2. Kingpin was black in Daredevil. 3. Bullseye was Irish in Daredevil. What else am I missing? I'm sure I'm missing some. Point I'm trying to make is Ripcord being black is not going to make or break the movie. A bad script, bad direction, and/or bad acting is. Personally? I fear that this movie is going to be like the live action Street Fighter movie. Awesomely bad.
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01-30-2008, 01:11 AM | #44 |
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I think Marlon Wayans is playing the character of "Stalker" but the movie folks are worried about the connotations associated with the NAME Stalker and how to sell it. Hence, the less-controversial name Rip Cord, which looks all nice on action figure packaging. One that mommies will buy for the kids.
Or maybe they're taking shortcuts and Wayans is playing a composite character combining Stalker and Rip Cord. Sort of how like Bumblebee was composited with the Lamborghini Autobot Sunstreaker for the TF Movie. |
01-30-2008, 07:49 AM | #45 |
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Originally Posted by Wylde Weezle
I think Marlon Wayans is playing the character of "Stalker" but the movie folks are worried about the connotations associated with the NAME Stalker and how to sell it. Hence, the less-controversial name Rip Cord, which looks all nice on action figure packaging. One that mommies will buy for the kids.
Or maybe they're taking shortcuts and Wayans is playing a composite character combining Stalker and Rip Cord. Sort of how like Bumblebee was composited with the Lamborghini Autobot Sunstreaker for the TF Movie.
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01-30-2008, 10:43 AM | #46 |
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I'm actually happy with this character being ripcord instead of stalker.
We have enough of the important characters and if stalker was in this, i feel he would just be a supporting character. You can't really have an 8 member Joe team with all of them being ranking officers. I mean you'll have 7 officers and Snake Eyes. If this movie is a success, I would love to see sequels with different joe teams and have Stalker be an older character playing a major leader in the joe ranks. I could easily see Samuel L. pull it off. |
01-30-2008, 01:25 PM | #47 |
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I'm actually happy with this character being ripcord instead of stalker.
We have enough of the important characters and if stalker was in this, i feel he would just be a supporting character. You can't really have an 8 member Joe team with all of them being ranking officers. I mean you'll have 7 officers and Snake Eyes. If this movie is a success, I would love to see sequels with different joe teams and have Stalker be an older character playing a major leader in the joe ranks. I could easily see Samuel L. pull it off. |
01-30-2008, 01:38 PM | #48 |
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Originally Posted by GI Guppy
I'm actually happy with this character being ripcord instead of stalker.
We have enough of the important characters and if stalker was in this, i feel he would just be a supporting character. You can't really have an 8 member Joe team with all of them being ranking officers. I mean you'll have 7 officers and Snake Eyes. If this movie is a success, I would love to see sequels with different joe teams and have Stalker be an older character playing a major leader in the joe ranks. I could easily see Samuel L. pull it off. Duke, Stalker/Ripcord, Scarlett, Snake Eyes, Breaker, and Heavy Duty/Roadblock are all noncoms or enlisted men anyway most of the joes rank sargent and I think (some one can correct me if I'm wrong) most special forces members are sargents
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01-30-2008, 01:50 PM | #49 |
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Originally Posted by deathvalleymachine
Your being blind-sided buddy (lol) Larry is onboard now, dont get to accustomed to Marlon playing Ripcord.....hahahahaha
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02-04-2008, 12:28 AM | #50 |
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My two cents:
People are over-reacting to Wayans for two reasons. 1) He's black, Ripcord is white. This is my primary beef with what we've heard so far. I'm hoping it's a placeholder name, but if not, I'm going to be upset just because it doesn't make any sense. Why make Ripcord black? They're not making Heavy Duty a huge white guy. Wylde Weesel, I hope your theory is correct, but if that's the case, why use Rip Cord's name? Why not a new name, or atleast one that references who Stalker was? 2) Very few people saw Marlon act in Requiem for a Dream, and it's hard to overcome critics when the majority of your resume is made up of gems like Don't be a Menace, White Chicks, The Sixth Man, Little Man, Scary Movie, and Thugaboo:A Miracle on D-Roc's Street. I think Marlon has the potential to be an amazing actor - if well directed. I'm not sure a guy like Sommers is the guy for the job. Razerwire, I agree that making a white person black won't make or break a character, or a movie for that matter, but it's just a dumb decision. It won't make a difference either way to those who don't know the character, but it will make it less accessible to those who do. Why not cater to the audience that knows the character instead of trying to change it all around? Actually, while I'm on the subject, I think having Ripcord in the movie as a character is silly in the first place. There are many more important characters in the Joe-verse, and many more who would be more likely to be popular with people new to the franchise. Irid70, I think we're all hoping that Larry would only sign on if the team honors the GI Joe legacy as it stands, and not allow them to do things like make Ripcord black.
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