Lets Pray Ripcord is a Placeholder name for Stalker

[mister_e]

Originally Posted by Irid70

I really don't care if Ripcord is white or black. A movie is a new continuity.

With Transformers, they never claimed it would be like G1. From the start, Michael Bay and company claimed that the Transformers movie would NOT be G1. However, Hasbro has led us to believe the opposite would be true for the GI Joe movie. I think that is why most people are upset at some of the rumored changes.

Didn't Hasbro say that some false rumors would be intentionally "leaked" to gauge fan reaction? I wonder...

Originally Posted by Irid70

and I want it to be a success, because a successful movie means more of the toy line.

I would never complain about getting new toys

[Compulsive Collector]

Originally Posted by G.I.Eddie

it's not racist to be upset that they are changing a history we know and love...would it be racist if I was upset if they made some known minority character white?

Hardly the same thing when most of the characters are already white. G.I. Joe did manage to have a decent number of minority characters for its time, although some of them were based on silly stereotypes, but the majority of the characters are white guys.

Originally Posted by G.I.Eddie

I want all the characters to remain true to their known established characters from our past regardless of race...that simple...

The film will take place in a different continuity. There are going to be lots of changes to characters, so why focus on this one?

Originally Posted by the_loud_master

This is quickly becoming a bit "racist."

I understand some people objecting to character changes. What G.I.Eddie, for example, has said does makes sense, but this is going to be utterly insignificant when everyone gets a look at all the changes that will be made. Some take it a bit too far, though, and news like this gives you a bit of insight as to what kind of people they are.

My only concern is that the producers say, "Well, we have two black guys now. That's enough!" And then Stalker gets left out of the movie. Stalker is one of my favorite characters on the Joe side of things, so that would be very disappointing. Other than that, Ripcord being black isn't a big deal.

As for all this, "Marlon Wayans is terrible," talk, I have to assume those insisting he can't bring anything postive to the film have never seen Darren Aronofsky's Requiem for a Dream or the Coen brothers' remake of The Ladykillers. If you haven't seen them, then you have no idea what Marlon Wayans can do. If you have seen them, and you're still bothered by his addition to the Joe team, then your taste in film is highly suspect, anyway.

[deathvalleymachine]

Just for the record, my initial post was not due to race but to point out the importance of characters in the Joe universe - there are over 500 active forms of Joe men alone and I stand strongly behind the idea of removing Ripcord as a main player for someone a little more popular - so be it, Marlon has been casted...ok, so thats' fine - look at the other castings and they all fit their characters well to the extreme....hmmm, Marlon does not fit the Ripcord persona at all, but, if he's here, and thats fine by me - I honestly believe that he could portray a very strong Stalker with slap-stick comedy. My point, if they are a making a possible one-time Joe Movie and they have "possible" cost related issues for casting - wouldn't you want your main players in this Joe Movie? My personal opinion guys...BTW were is Flint?

my question is as other board members have posted that there could be false leaks to rattle us a bit, I strongly believe with Marlon being such a Joe fan, he would want to play Stalker over a guy like Ripcord, but, then again, Alpine and Bazooka skits were the funniest part of the Joe Universe, and have to mention those two got into trouble all the time, could he be Alpine?

Just a twist of faith...

[G.I.Eddie]

Originally Posted by deathvalleymachine

I honestly believe that he could portray a very strong Stalker...

I wish...buuuut...

IESB: Let's go to the most recent announcement that kind of surprised a lot of people. Wallace Weems, Ripcord, played by Marlon Wayans. Tell me that he nailed the audition because it's so out of the box here.

LDB: Well, let's talk about Marlon for a second. A lot of people are fans of his from the comedic point of view obviously for all the right reasons, but what I think everybody forgets about is how damn good he was in Requiem for a Dream as an actor. And, when we were trying to figure out who would be the right element to make this combination work of Duke as the leader and Ripcord as the best friend who sorta gets Duke in trouble all the time and Duke has to bail him out all the time and have fun with him, we needed a guy who's gonna be funny and we needed a guy who was going to be a good actor. And we went to Marlon...

[G.I.Eddie]

Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector

Hardly the same thing when most of the characters are already white. G.I. Joe did manage to have a decent number of minority characters for its time, although some of them were based on silly stereotypes, but the majority of the characters are white guys.

this is a reflection of how this country (real AMERICAN hero) is...mostly white...thats where titles like minority and majority come from...and like you said, G.I.Joe had plenty of minority's...

i know that there will be many changes, obviously, i was just stating that i wish they wouldn't change something that to me (and by the sounds of it, plenty of others) is important...i mean, just leave Ripcord out for all i care, and make Marlon a known black character or create a new one just for him...i just don't get it, not one bit, makes no sense at all...

[Compulsive Collector]

Originally Posted by G.I.Eddie

this is a reflection of how this country (real AMERICAN hero) is...mostly white...thats where titles like minority and majority come from...and like you said, G.I.Joe had plenty of minority's...

It's not even close to a reflection of military demographics, though, and that doesn't affect the point I was making, anyway. If there are only a few (not plenty) black characters, then casting white actors to portray them is inherently different than casting a black actor to portray one of many white characters. It's not the same thing at all.

I'm not saying I understand the character/actor combination; I just don't think it's a huge deal.

[Shin-Gouki]

I'm leaning tword giving this movie a pass if Marlon Wayans is in it.

[Gentleman]

Yeah, it'd be much more interesting if he were playing Stalker. Ripcord is just so out of the blue.


...but well, at least he ain't playing Dr. Link Talbot.

[GunghosLipHair]

i always liked marlon wayans so i will reserve judgement for now. I think he can be good in this role. we shall see what happens.

[GunghosLipHair]

i also kind of feel that by using Ripcord, a not as well known figure IMO, sets him up to be sacrificial. If that makes any sense?