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01-05-2008, 01:10 AM | #31 |
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If you're going to be a music snob at least do your homework. If we're gonna talk about doing homework then, geez...ok, musical taste is pretty much purely subjective. But in terms of musicianship, theory, influence, etc...Elvis Costello beats the living hell out of Disturbed or any of the other crap metal bands people have mentioned. That goes triple for Miles Davis, and about thirty for Chopin. I try to listen to new music when I get the chance, and to keep an open mind. But I can't imagine sharing much musical taste with someone who summarily dismisses one of the most versatile and literate songwriters of the past several decades, arguably the most influential jazz musician of all time, and one of the greatest piano composers who ever lived. Dismissing Costello is particularly perplexing to me because he has played and influenced so many genres that it is not difficult to find at least one version of Elvis Costello that you like. Further...I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, in terms of musical proficiency...actually composing and playing an instrument...there's nothing that any of those crap metal bands could do that Costello, Davis, or Chopin couldn't do, and top. The reverse is absolutely 100% not true. But hey, musical taste is subjective, and I'm sure I like lots of stuff nobody else here likes and etc. And that's fine.
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01-05-2008, 01:23 AM | #32 |
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I most certainly will Mr. Music Professor.
I'd have done it sooner! Quote:
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If we're gonna talk about doing homework then, geez...ok, musical taste is pretty much purely subjective. But in terms of musicianship, theory, influence, etc...Elvis Costello beats the living hell out of Disturbed or any of the other crap metal bands people have mentioned.
That goes triple for Miles Davis, and about thirty for Chopin. I try to listen to new music when I get the chance, and to keep an open mind. But I can't imagine sharing much musical taste with someone who summarily dismisses one of the most versatile and literate songwriters of the past several decades, arguably the most influential jazz musician of all time, and one of the greatest piano composers who ever lived. Dismissing Costello is particularly perplexing to me because he has played and influenced so many genres that it is not difficult to find at least one version of Elvis Costello that you like. Further...I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, in terms of musical proficiency...actually composing and playing an instrument...there's nothing that any of those crap metal bands could do that Costello, Davis, or Chopin couldn't do, and top. The reverse is absolutely 100% not true. Quote:
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But hey, musical taste is subjective, and I'm sure I like lots of stuff nobody else here likes and etc. And that's fine.
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01-05-2008, 01:29 AM | #33 |
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If we're gonna talk about doing homework then, geez...ok, musical taste is pretty much purely subjective. But in terms of musicianship, theory, influence, etc...Elvis Costello beats the living hell out of Disturbed or any of the other crap metal bands people have mentioned.
That goes triple for Miles Davis, and about thirty for Chopin. I try to listen to new music when I get the chance, and to keep an open mind. But I can't imagine sharing much musical taste with someone who summarily dismisses one of the most versatile and literate songwriters of the past several decades, arguably the most influential jazz musician of all time, and one of the greatest piano composers who ever lived. Dismissing Costello is particularly perplexing to me because he has played and influenced so many genres that it is not difficult to find at least one version of Elvis Costello that you like. Further...I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, in terms of musical proficiency...actually composing and playing an instrument...there's nothing that any of those crap metal bands could do that Costello, Davis, or Chopin couldn't do, and top. The reverse is absolutely 100% not true. But hey, musical taste is subjective, and I'm sure I like lots of stuff nobody else here likes and etc. And that's fine. Do I personally like Johnny Cash better than Disturbed? Absolutely! Will Johnny Cash ever make it into a G.I.JOE movie? I seriously doubt it! Music is definitely subjective and arguing over who is better or more talented or more entertaining or whatever is futile! This is why I took issue with Compulsive Collector blatantly disregarding and even attacking other members musical tastes when all we are doing is having some fun musing on what would be in this films soundtrack if we were calling the shots. None of these songs will be on the soundtrack to this film but there is absolutely no point in pissing on anyone's picnic is there? |
01-05-2008, 01:37 AM | #34 |
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You know, I was just breaking balls with the original Megadeth comment. Honestly, if I had known someone would get his panties in such a bunch over it...
I'd have done it sooner! You just remember who your "Daddy" is there ole buddy ;-) and my panties are not the issue here! |
01-05-2008, 01:42 AM | #35 |
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You know, I was just breaking balls with the original Megadeth comment. Honestly, if I had known someone would get his panties in such a bunch over it...
I'd have done it sooner! And that's what struck me, the total lack of respect and appreciation for true talent. Same here. I like a lot of noise bands, from The Melvins to more obnoxious stuff like Melt-Banana, not to mention early grindcore like Napalm Death and Carcass, that I'm sure would drive most of you up the wall. I'm also a devoted fan of Fiona Apple. But even if I don't like something, I'll be respectful of anything truly innovative, anything that pushes the boundaries or challenges my senses. That's what Chopin did. That's what Miles did. That's what Costello has been doing throughout his career. Hell, I despise Bob Dylan's voice, but I recognize his songwriting genius, and I'd be a fool to dismiss it. Yours truly, and always the first to admit he is a music snob, Compulsive Collector "and what struck me was the total lack of respect and appreciation for your fellow board members" If you guys want to argue music theory, history, or influence, I'm sure it would be much more productive somewhere other than "G.I.JOE SOUNDTRACK" |
01-05-2008, 12:59 PM | #36 |
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Do I personally like Johnny Cash better than Disturbed? Absolutely! Will Johnny Cash ever make it into a G.I.JOE movie? I seriously doubt it!
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This is why I took issue with Compulsive Collector blatantly disregarding and even attacking other members musical tastes when all we are doing is having some fun musing on what would be in this films soundtrack if we were calling the shots. None of these songs will be on the soundtrack to this film but there is absolutely no point in pissing on anyone's picnic is there?
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You just remember who your "Daddy" is there ole buddy ;-)
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and my panties are not the issue here!
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01-05-2008, 04:54 PM | #37 |
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Do you really think every scene in the film will be action? Couldn't something like that be playing when a character from the South is called up from leave? Use some imagination. If Marvin Gaye can make it into Michael Baybots, then why not? Hell, just imagine what Major Bludd would be listening to in his room/office/quarters/whatever.
This is totally feasible and I can see that working. They why didn't you "take issue" with the comments about hip hop, oh ye heroic defender of nu metal? It's all just breaking balls, man. No need to take any of it seriously. Truth be told I'm not even that big of a nu-metal fan. I just thought it was infantile to point out how something sucks when you've never sampled it? Plus the rap comment was a blanket statement and wasn't in the direction of any of the posters. What you said was a direct jab at what everyone had come up with. Yes, sir. May I have another, sir? I'm open 24 hrs. a day, brotha! :-) Unless you're wearing a thong, because that would give us entirely new ideas for a soundtrack. |
01-08-2008, 05:23 AM | #38 |
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ok,.. when did this thread go so way out of context.
Quite frankly, if you DID your homework, we know Alan Silvestri did great orchestral soundtrack scores, Like Back to the Future soundtracks, Beowulf, The Mummy, The Abyss, Forrest Gump, Predator, the Delta force, The Long Kiss Goodnight,.. and so forth so we can be assured that the score will be ten times better than anything that the musical score will come up with. also, considering the multicultural cast, you could also assume that the soundtrack will aso be multicultural: a Mix of Pop, rock, rap, and possible a techno song or two, as well as a rock variation of the original G.I.Joe theme (similar to Transformers animated version by Lion) I sincerly doubt that there is going to be any 80's music at all, espeically exclusively a metal album, OR a hip-hhop album,.. they're just not gonna sell they way the movie people would like. Remember how dismal the sales were for the mostly Metal Spawn Soundtrack, Likewise for the all Hip-Hop Street Fighter soundtrack? .. notice how the Transformers live movie had a mixture or rock and pop, with only ONE song that could be considered metal (and mainstream metal at that) and the popularity of the soundtrack was carried by the popularity of Linkin park's "What I've DOne". Without it, the soundtrack may have flopped. sometimes you guys have to think with the same dollar signs that the execs will be thinking with, not with "my favorite Movie" quite frankly, an all metal soundtrack wouldnt work for this genre,.. too heavy for G.I.Joe, same problem with an all rap album as well. We can tell from the cast the movie sint gonna be too serious (some people are expecting a Black Hawk Down kinda movie,.. that just isnt the case) I could see a 15 track soundtrack, with at least two pieces of the score on the soundtrack. Its gonna probably be a mix of new popular music, with maybe one or two tracks all new music for the film. now,.. that being said, I have to stand up for lsitening for ALL types of music, I for one dont completely dislike all the new Hip Hop music, but its the same deal with metal as well,.. I dont Like Manson, not because he's metal, but because he's kinda wack. However I LOVE Metallica, Disturbed, and the b side tracks of System of a Down, on the flip side, I cant stand Jim Jones, Young Jeezy, or anything Jay-Z has put out in the last few years (I guess I am an old Schooler). but if the Mood hits me, I CAN listen to 'The Beautiful People" or "Go Getta". You cant really condemn anyone for not listening to the music you like, but likewise you cant really call what someone else listens to crap.
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01-08-2008, 06:55 AM | #39 |
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Kingofpain26, you listen to crap.
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01-09-2008, 02:41 AM | #40 |
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there is an old saying:
"Never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference"
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