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Would you like Retaliation as much if you hadn't been so disappointed with ROC?

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Old 03-30-2013, 04:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Would you like Retaliation as much if you hadn't been so disappointed with ROC?

I liked Retaliation even though it is not what I would call "a good movie." So why do I like it? Because I HATED Rise of Cobra, the writing team said early on that it would be more like the cartoon, and I realize that we're never going to get an IDW style G.I.Joe for adults type of movie as long as there is a toyline attached.

That being said, If ROC never happened, would you have liked the movie as much?

I don't think I would have. I think we've settled for less in the wake of disaster.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wouldn't have liked either one of them, irrelevant of either one's existence or not. A bad movie is a bad movie, and they both fit squarely into that category.

I was embarrassed for the casts of both movies throughout both movies.

Just like the Star Wars prequels (and Jedi,for that matter) - a shitty movie is a shitty movie. Doesn't matter what series it's in or who plays in it.
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I love Rise of Cobra but I dont HATE Retaliation I am just disappointed with how they treated the first movie just to appease the hardcore fanbase
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I love Rise of Cobra but I dont HATE Retaliation I am just disappointed with how they treated the first movie just to appease the hardcore fanbase
In hindsight, RoC is definitely the better of the two. It's a much more competent blockbuster.

But they're still both embarrassing.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I HATE to say it but ROC is a better movie in terms of cinematic storytelling. It tells a complete story. It's debatable whether or not that story is one of G.I.Joe but it's a complete story nonetheless.

Retaliation has more holes in it's plot than a pair of fishnet stockings. If you make the mistake of thinking about what you're watching, it actually brings up MORE questions than it answers. It has a couple of impressive action sequences and it looks and feels more like G.I. Joe but damn, is it stupid!

I think Hasbro needs to collaborate with someone on a GOOD animated series (not at all a knock on Renegades), build on that for a few years, then adapt THAT into a movie.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I wasnt disappointed in ROC, it wasn't good but i didnt think it was as horrible as some of you people think it is. I actually didnt flip out because CC wasnt CC until the end because, you know, the title says RISE OF COBRA.

Hell, after seeing Retaliation i say that ROC had a tremendously better depiction of CC. In Ret all that Cobra did was go, "I'm Cobra Commander, MWA AHAHAHHAH!!" Somehow Firefly had the idea that they needed a Commander yet CC didnt do ANYTHING. Zartan stole the show for me. That scene with the world leaders for me was THE SCENE of the movie. That scene came the closest to anything JOE in that whole movie. It was a 10 out of 10 show of super villainy.

Seriously... in ROC Cobra Commander WAS super evil, in charge, and had a plan. In this one he just walks around for a few seconds after that first escape scene. Ret did not need CC at all, he was there for no other reason than to sell a toy. And, yes, i know this thing is to sell toys but dont have the main bad guy do NOTHING.
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Gotta love the Doctor, admit the Doctor was AWESOME the way he played James till the end
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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They both sucked
I found roc actually more entertaining.
Retaliation looked more "joe"
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've enjoyed ROC and Retaliation.
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I loved them both I go to movies for escapism and both movies were fun movies. And Tatum was much better as Duke in Retaliation. He actually sounded like a leader in this movie.
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