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05-28-2012, 07:51 PM | #1 |
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Question, why is there so many problems with making a movie about a special operations team that stops a terrorist group from tearing shit up?
Seriously, all you need to do is come up with a plot that would work for any military action flick. Make the leader of U.S. Special Ops team Hawk. Have his field commander named Duke or Stalker. Have a ninja dude named Snake Eyes in it. If you must have a love triangle with Duke, S.E. and Scarlett. Call this unit G.I. JOE. Fill out the rest of the roster with some of the hundreds of JOEs that are available. For the Enemy have a mysterious dude with an axe to grind and wears a mask and or battle helmet. The mysterious dude gets his weapons from another mysterious dude of Scottish origins. The head of the mysterious dude intelligence is a femme fatale of maybe European aristocracy. Throw in a sabotuer that's extraordinarily nice with explosives, a mercenary from Australia, maybe a set of twins who supplies the mysterious dude with money for plans at world demonination and the Twins have the best of terrorist group stategically placed in military, banking, and governmental institutions around the world. Call this enemy COBRA. Hasbro and Paramount seem to be creating a bunch of needless problems for themsleves for a movie that should be relatively easy to make. |
05-28-2012, 07:54 PM | #2 |
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Bro, ever since I came back to collecting during the 25th era, there has ALWAYS been some sort of manufactured "Joe problem."
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05-28-2012, 07:59 PM | #3 |
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Question, why is there so many problems with making a movie about a special operations team that stops a terrorist group from tearing shit up?
Seriously, all you need to do is come up with a plot that would work for any military action flick. Make the leader of U.S. Special Ops team Hawk. Have his field commander named Duke or Stalker. Have a ninja dude named Snake Eyes in it. If you must have a love triangle with Duke, S.E. and Scarlett. Call this unit G.I. JOE. Fill out the rest of the roster with some of the hundreds of JOEs that are available. For the Enemy have a mysterious dude with an axe to grind and wears a mask and or battle helmet. The mysterious dude gets his weapons from another mysterious dude of Scottish origins. The head of the mysterious dude intelligence is a femme fatale of maybe European aristocracy. Throw in a sabotuer that's extraordinarily nice with explosives, a mercenary from Australia, maybe a set of twins who supplies the mysterious dude with money for plans at world demonination and the Twins have the best of terrorist group stategically placed in military, banking, and governmental institutions around the world. Call this enemy COBRA. Hasbro and Paramount seem to be creating a bunch of needless problems for themsleves for a movie that should be relatively easy to make. For a worse example, look at Battleship. They had to toss in aliens rather than admit the fact that there are conflicts among humans on Earth today. It needed to be "safe" (and we see how well it did for them in the end!) Last edited by blackbarn; 05-28-2012 at 08:01 PM.. |
05-28-2012, 07:59 PM | #4 |
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The problem is everyone expects something different from a Joe movie. The characters have to look exactly like their toy counterpart, the story must be exactly the same as the comics, the actors need to be giant A-listers. People basically seem to want a live action interpretation of the Marvel comics. But let's face it- that would turn out laughable. It's hard to take toys and put them onscreen without looking ridiculous. That's why RoC and Retaliation both seem to interpret Joe differently. And just like RoC, there will be people that love it and those that hate it, no matter how it turns out. There will never be a Joe movie that every Joe fan enjoys.
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05-28-2012, 08:00 PM | #5 |
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I think they're over-thinking it. It's all about the money, money, money.
Joe has seemed to have problems of some sort since 1994. It might be like Michael Jordan coming back to the NBA for the 3rd time.
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05-28-2012, 08:02 PM | #6 |
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Just give me ARAH or Resolute Please is it that hard? There are two great references for awesome material!!!
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05-28-2012, 08:03 PM | #7 |
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The issue I see is not the core elements, the concept of fighting the terrorist organization nor cobra nor joe. Its the identity crisis they are trying to rectify and find a workable solution for and keep failing (why so many reboots every 6 months between cartoons, toys and movies). With ROC it was xmen/star wars/transformers references along with the nanomite(tm) technology ideas, with Retaliaiton it was the over-ninjaforced concepts and Battle Katta riddled making EVERYONE a ninja if not better then snake eyes..they just cant let it be GI JOE..they are so affraid that people will find it too goofy(how about popcorn flick ready?) or off the wall or how did that one guy put it "too YMCA?"...
As long as GI JOE tries to be other properties its not..it will fail...the kids have enough of that from the actual properites of those other concepts like star wars, transformers and marvel...joe needs its identity back and a live action movie isnt going to get that done..it needs a strong cartoon on a yearly basis followed up a connective and reckognizable toy line showing at retail that can be stocked so everyone can buy what they want..all of RETAIL..not just one or 2 stores or scalper-ebay...
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05-28-2012, 08:05 PM | #8 |
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The problem is everyone expects something different from a Joe movie. The characters have to look exactly like their toy counterpart, the story must be exactly the same as the comics, the actors need to be giant A-listers. People basically seem to want a live action interpretation of the Marvel comics. But let's face it- that would turn out laughable. It's hard to take toys and put them onscreen without looking ridiculous. That's why RoC and Retaliation both seem to interpret Joe differently. And just like RoC, there will be people that love it and those that hate it, no matter how it turns out. There will never be a Joe movie that every Joe fan enjoys.
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05-28-2012, 08:12 PM | #9 |
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Not true. Remember in X-Men when they wore the black suits? There's even a joke made to Wolverine saying ” would you prefer blue and yellow spandex?” Let's not think that every Marvel movie has been great either (Elektra, Fantastic 4, Ghost Rider, Hulk). Every Marvel movie updates many things from the comics. People claim they want GI Joe to be like the comics but then knock RoC for nanomites. Those seemed ripped directly from the Marvel pages. People will complain no matter how the movie turns out. That's a fact about every movie, GI Joe is no different.
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05-28-2012, 08:17 PM | #10 |
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And, it all comes back to the toys. Toys are intended for children, not adults who can't let go of their youth. If a live action GI Joe movie came out in 1986, you wouldn't have wanted something geared more for your parents. You'd have wanted something made for you. No matter what they make the movie about, it has to be safe enough for an 8 year old to watch.
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