[General Scarlett]

Gentlemen, I don't want to have to warn anyone or shut the thread down.........

STOP now with the childish behavior.........

Thanks.......

[SHIPWRECK"N"POLLY]

thanks for the open discussion, at least open discussion is still allowed. This is all speculation anyway the results of the movie will not be determined until afterwards then we will know if Hasbro's idea of G.I. Joe is a big seller or a big tanker. My love for the toy will not be diminished either way.

[sharke]

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Originally Posted by General Scarlett

STOP now with the childish behavior.........

childish behavior on a toy website....thats preposterous!








love ya, General Scarlett

[infinitron]

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Originally Posted by General Scarlett

I am not a swinger!!!!

And if I continue to type, I'll back myself into a corner........

:p

D@mn, what did I miss? Scarlett's "I am not a swinger denial" is more direct than Hasbro's "GiJoe is about :eek: Heroes!" denial but I'm not sure who i believe less...?

[infinitron]

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Originally Posted by sharke

childish behavior on a toy website....thats preposterous!

priceless.

[OUTBACK]

uh-oh, moderator wants to flex some e-muscle, watch out now!

lol

[Compulsive Collector]

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Originally Posted by infinitron

So a film that is unabashedly patriotic and portrays American Service(men) and women as heroes is a "propaganda film?" I would have to disagree.

You're disagreeing with your own imagination. This was how I described the concept of a G.I. Joe film that shows an American flag in "every other scene". There is more to the story than the U.S. military, and that shouldn't be forgotten, especially not to appease a vocal minority who refuse to learn about the process, have no interest in facts, and go so far as to challenge the "patriotism" of anyone who dares to be reasonable.

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Originally Posted by infinitron

By the way, there have been 3 or 4 anti-military/ant- US films released just this year so far and each and everyone has performed very poorly if not out-right bombed.

Would you care to cite the films you referenced, their box office numbers, and their budgets? Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by OUTBACK

well maybe not every other scene, but you get my drift. as someone pointed out, the character scale is so diverse, it's like they have every nationailty to begin with, so leave it be.

that is not even close to anything "propaganda". being proud and making something that is ours, isn't grandstanding or boasting...it's ours. if the "foreigners" don't like it...

DONT GO #$@#%& SEE IT!

But it's not yours. If you have the cash to finance the film, then by all means, call Paramount now and buy the rights to the property. Otherwise, it's theirs.

And yes, "every other scene" would be a propaganda film.

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Originally Posted by OUTBACK

you think i give a %$#@ if some guy in Iraq or Iran is going to whine and moan? you must be nuts...

Moviegoers in Iraq and Iran have nothing to do with the discussion. I explained that back in a previous post if you're even slightly interested in understanding the issue.

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Originally Posted by SHIPWRECK"N"POLLY

What a time to make jokes about the flag "rimshot" it being veterans day tomorrow, i wonder how all those vets would feel if they were polled about this topic, i wonder if they would take the issue so flipently. Did they lay there lives on the line for that great "international task force?"

It certainly wasn't for a movie.

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Originally Posted by gunslingercbr

that is my point, the Joe's can be patriotic, American based and have the flag at the pit without the movie bombarding the audience with pro-American sentiment. As a veteran of the armed services and a Joe fan, I don't want to see that. I want to see Joe vs Cobra first and foremost. I don't want the American aspect of G.I. Joe stripped from the movie, and I haven't read anything that says it will, but the venomous manor in which the movie is being attacked just because it isn't the major focal point of the movie is just unreasonable. the idea that G.I. Joe isn't G.I. Joe unless it is a promotion for America couldn't be farther from the truth. America is only one aspect that makes G.I. Joe G.I. Joe.

I don't really have a response for this quote. I just felt like it needed to be repeated.

[sharke]

stealing from Apoc

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Originally Posted by apacolypse

[infinitron]

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Originally Posted by Compulsive Collector

You're disagreeing with your own imagination. This was how I described the concept of a G.I. Joe film that shows an American flag in "every other scene". There is more to the story than the U.S. military, and that shouldn't be forgotten, especially not to appease a vocal minority who refuse to learn about the process, have no interest in facts, and go so far as to challenge the "patriotism" of anyone who dares to be reasonable.

Well I would agree with you that strategically placing a flag in every shot would be overkill.

And by no means does my concept of patriotism demand the movie be "pro iraq war," "pro any particular administration or policy," etc. I just think being "American" is not something anyone needs to apologize for. Not in the current political climate or ever.

We have sins in our history and blood on our hands but no more so than any other nation in actuality. But because of our wealth and power, we tend to be under a larger microscope. No nation on earth has shed more of it's own blood for the sake of other's liberty. If we can't be proud of our country and especially those who have killed and/or died for it, we don't deserve the liberty we have, because it came at quite a cost to many, and continues to do so.

This is not directly related but i just had a thought- I remember years back when reading the letters pages of the original comic. Very often letters were from former or active duty US military. They would respond to certain stories that they identified with or maybe just gave Hamma props when he kept certain elements "real." There was no doubt at the time that GIJOE: A Real American Hero was somewhat of a reflection on them in many ways. What a crying shame it would be if Hasbro and the corporate interests that be take away the heart and soul of GIJoe, by distancing themselves from those very heroes.

[OUTBACK]

infinitron, well said and appreciated.