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11-11-2007, 01:21 PM | #41 |
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I agree totally. I myself am not by any means racist and am open to anyone. I also believe in keeping to original ideas and concepts. They have a pretty good mix as far as african american, asian, native american and such. That is actually part of what makes it such a great team.
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11-11-2007, 05:18 PM | #42 |
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I think it's just a cop-out .I think that the studios and Hasbro fear if they go "All American" that it won't sell to the foreign market overseas,that is the inevitable truth though they make not admit it.Personally GIJOE since 1964 has been an American thing...and should stay that way reguardless.If you were to make a Capt.America film are u gonna change it to Capt.Euro ?? that's ridiculous...it is actually a shame that our powers to be are COWARDS and have no pride in our country.If James Bond can stay true to being British so can GIJOE for being American.I don't mind them having some foreign team members so as long as they don't alter the origins of the american ones like Duke,Snake-Eyes,Scarlett,Stalker,Gung-Ho,Flint...But to deamericanize the brand is a slap in our faces.
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i'm telling you..just let me write this movie, i guarantee none of you will disapprove.
there will be an American flag in just about every other scene. whether on a uniform patch, or the star-spangled banner itself. "...And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air, Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.. Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave" Amen. Quote:
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Once again, I want a fun, exciting, and entertaining genre film based on the stories I read growing up in the '80s, not a propaganda film. So a film that is unabashedly patriotic and portrays American Service(men) and women as heroes is a "propaganda film?" I would have to disagree. By the way, there have been 3 or 4 anti-military/ant- US films released just this year so far and each and everyone has performed very poorly if not out-right bombed. So If Hasbro cares what the market wants, and not just what the P.C. segment of the market wants, we WILL get the "GIJoe A Real American Hero" movie most of us desire. |
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11-11-2007, 05:42 PM | #43 |
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it's real easy to tell someone how they should spend their $170 dollars, isn't it?
fact is, the future of G.I. Joe is dependent upon the performance of this movie. G.I. Joe can be patriotic without throwing America in the audience's face with every line and frame, so demanding that it be doesn't reflect the patriotism, or lack thereof, of the movie, it only reflects the arguers narrow view. I just don't see the rationale of anyone demanding the the movie be made to only appeal to their preferences and the preferences of only a segment of the potential market. you can't make a $170 million dollar movie without concern for how you are going to not only earn that back but make a significant profit, and if this movie doesn't it will hinder the future of G.I. Joe for us all. and spare me the argument that you would prefer a smaller Joe movie then. G.I. Joe will be better off with a $170 dollar budget that appeals to a world wide market more than a $10 or $50 million budget that only appeals to a small segment of the already established fan base. |
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11-11-2007, 05:46 PM | #44 |
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Hasbro is being a major fence rider on the movie issue, whether gi joe is a real "AMERICAN" hero or some global task force is a HUGE deal to alot of people, even though they are just toys it's not Star Wars or Transformers, the joes fight for something they have a us flag on there hq and there equipment. the red white and blue is in there logo, hasbro has essentially said through there press statement they don't want to offend americans so the joes won't be based in brussels they will be based in the PITT, but they don't want to offend people who hate america and its millitary so we won't call them american soldiers either, they are being totally neutral in there press statement, I have a hard time buying my navy officer shipwreck or my us marine gung ho having to cover up there respective tat's so when they go to battle outside the us they don't offent anyone
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11-11-2007, 05:51 PM | #45 |
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I resent people who say we who love the joes as fictitious us millitary hero's as "NARROW" there are LARGE numbers of joe fans in the us millitary, this is not a MINOR issue, its not a matter of being petty or narrow. We are not talking about a bunch of flag waving or grand standing, we are talking about just acknowledging the joes for what they have been since the 1960's. All of a sudden thats not acceptable any more?
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11-11-2007, 05:59 PM | #46 |
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Hasbro is being a major fence rider on the movie issue, whether gi joe is a real "AMERICAN" hero or some global task force is a HUGE deal to alot of people, even though they are just toys it's not Star Wars or Transformers, the joes fight for something they have a us flag on there hq and there equipment. the red white and blue is in there logo, hasbro has essentially said through there press statement they don't want to offend americans so the joes won't be based in brussels they will be based in the PITT, but they don't want to offend people who hate america and its millitary so we won't call them american soldiers either, they are being totally neutral in there press statement, I have a hard time buying my navy officer shipwreck or my us marine gung ho having to cover up there respective tat's so when they go to battle outside the us they don't offent anyone
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I resent people who say we who love the joes as fictitious us millitary hero's as "NARROW" there are LARGE numbers of joe fans in the us millitary, this is not a MINOR issue, its not a matter of being petty or narrow. We are not talking about a bunch of flag waving or grand standing, we are talking about just acknowledging the joes for what they have been since the 1960's. All of a sudden thats not acceptable any more?
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11-11-2007, 06:15 PM | #47 |
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the red white and blue is in there logo, hasbro has essentially said through there press statement they don't want to offend americans so the joes won't be based in brussels they will be based in the PITT, but they don't want to offend people who hate america and its millitary so we won't call them american soldiers either...
G.I. Joe can be Real American Heroes in a movie that is neutral in tone. the idea that the two can only exist independently is absurd. |
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11-11-2007, 06:24 PM | #48 |
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Can they be seperate? We will see if hasbro has the guts to fly a U.S flagg over the pitt, if they do then your theory will hold true, the problem with all this about "appealling to a global audience" is fine with transformers, because it is not truly an american toy, wouldn't you think if hasbro was in to making major cash they would want to appeal to joe's biggest fan base? We all know gi joe is not a huge pop entity outside the U.S.A. True it has been sold in various forms outside the states but that is not were the lines bread is buttered. If your statement is correct that it is clearly about succesfull marketing and not fear of offending people then why not try to market to what will be the movies largest profit base, which is not going to be outside the states!
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11-11-2007, 06:27 PM | #49 |
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So a film that is unabashedly patriotic and portrays American Service(men) and women as heroes is a "propaganda film?" I would have to disagree.
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tkprime they will never eat my pancakes...NEVER!
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You are WRONG. And more than a bit smug.:rolleyes:
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we WILL get the "GIJoe A Real American Hero" movie most of us desire.
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G.I. Joe can be patriotic without throwing America in the audience's face with every line and frame, so demanding that it be doesn't reflect the patriotism, or lack thereof, of the movie, it only reflects the arguers narrow view.
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Maybe everybody could stop speculating reasons to hate the movie that is still in the casting stage, about which we know next to nothing
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I dont mind the idea of a Rainbow six type of unit. International doesnt bother me a bit. I would much rather see a movie dark with reality than something with a silly plot and poor dialogue.
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G.I. Joe can be Real American Heroes in a movie that is neutral in tone. the idea that the two can only exist independently is absurd.
Can someone please show me how this equals Paramount, Hasbro, and the world hate America? Once again I'm using my trademarked line "Chris Sommers raped my childhood"! Either way it makes no difference, the countries they use will all be western European and NATO thus the same as America to the "hate America first" crowd, doh!
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11-11-2007, 06:30 PM | #50 |
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Can they be seperate? We will see if hasbro has the guts to fly a U.S flagg over the pitt,
If a "U.S. Flagg" is flying over the Pitt, then I think SHIELD has a case of copyright infringement. (rimshot)
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