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05-18-2009, 04:19 AM | #1 |
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Been thinking a lot lately, and wanted to share what was on my mind, if only to get it out of my system.
GI Joe is poised for a return. And, yeah, it's been back for a little while, but it's not BACK yet. So what would bring it back, and what would make it even better? For one, the movie will help. Sure, it's not going to be what we want or know it could be (in some cases, and yes, the movie could be a resounding success. My g/f is actually interested in seeing it after the Star Trek trailer for it). But in the long run, while it will possibly alienate some older fans, it will definitely re-invigorate interest in the line. Secondly, Resolute was a huge success. The response has been incredible, and Hasbro knows it. Now, what to do from here, though? Hasbro needs to strike, while they can. The new cartoon hinted at in the Discovery Kids channel crossover thing is a good start, as is the new comic series been released by IDW now, but there needs to be more. Resolute got non-fans interested with it's adult cartoon, so I don't see why another series, similiar in tone and style, couldn't pull a BtAS on it and be stylish, intelligent, a re-deux and meaningful. Seriously, terrorism and military are two hot words now, and this IP could be something far more. On that front, I think that Hasbro wouldn't be unintelligent if they went the route of DC Animated movies, in place of a series (or ideally, in conjunction). Make a few movies with different characters and storylines that can be considered part of a whole, thus creating quick hikes in profits and revenue, and maintain interest. A movie for Duke, Stalker and a couple of others, a ninja movie, a Destro Vs this group of Joes, etc. Hell, even a Ripcord movie, regardless of which version Hasbro uses, would be a great way to gather like-minded characters such as Airborne, Ace and Barrel Roll. Furthermore, this strategy would allow HAsbro to release specific charactres during windows of opportunity when they are better known and recognized. For that matter, why not adapt the Joe comic into a series, especially now that Hasbro and Marvel are so tight? And if you want to kill two birds, why not the Joe/TF crossover? I'd suggest the dreamwave story, both for the artistic/thematic nature, as well as CHEAP purchasing, seeing how the group that owns the copyright is now caputz. Also, there needs to be more "non-toy" merchandise. The world of GI Joe begs for adult novels, ala Tom Clancy's entire career. Realistic, harsh, and profitiable. This can also be grouunds for a Battlefront/battlefield style game. Note to Hasbro; This is not only the most suggested/requested game style, but is not easily messed up and Star Wars Battlefront II is the 2nd most played X-Box original game on X-Box Live, after Halo 2. The market. Is. There. Hasrbo needs to be aggressive with their new merchandise and the Joe IP. Classic toylines are dying/dead becuase of a lack of interest, and to maintain/gain interest, you have to DO THINGS. I know, redundant, but I think it needs to be said. Then again, perhaps I've just been rambling. Yo Joe. |
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05-18-2009, 04:38 AM | #2 |
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I agree with alot of your statements
GI Joe can not and will not continue just because we on a forum don't want it to change Even though some may not want to admit it, the GI Joe movie is the best thing to happen to GI Joe since the 80's. It will make GI Joe mainstream again |
05-18-2009, 04:46 AM | #3 |
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I'm a huge fan of the Resolute mini series, the IDW comics as well as older G.I. Joe comics and I've had some interest in previous attempts to create new Joe animated series. However, I feel that there has been a marked lack of continuity in both the Joe Mythos and the Toy line. This creates confusion among the masses.
We have had the short lived CGI Ninja battles, the Valor vs. Venom one shots, the short lived sigma six animation, which I liked but I never had any idea if or when it was on t.v. and most recently, Resolute, which despite overwhelming reaction from both old fans and the uninitiated, most likely will not continue. Talk about a tease. Now what you appear to be proposing is to create several parallel media productions of RoC, Resolute, cartoons based on the comics and to top it all off DC style one shots spotlighting one or two characters. Transformers has always had several lines going, but each line was part of a clearly defined continuity: G1, Beast wars, the cybertronian wars trilogy (Armada,Energon,Cybertron) the prequel lines; War within, infiltration. Each line has its place in the mythos except for "Animated" which was targeted for kids and the kids don't realize that they are being short changed . What we need is to clearly define the Joe mythos, I would hate to see a kiddy joe cartoon, a comic based cartoon, one for the Movie line and another for disenfranchised 80's fans. Just give us Resolute the series and no one will get hurt. |
05-18-2009, 04:49 AM | #4 |
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Yes, I agree on that point. I was thrilled to learn about the movie despite certain misgivings. Lets not forget that everyone thought Transformers was going to suck.
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05-18-2009, 04:50 AM | #5 |
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As kids to us it was great right? Well maybe its new kids turn and hopefully the mainstream will return. Hasbro has not forgotten about us old fans look at Resolute and the past three year toy lines. But it must survive to get more for us ol' timers. I guess to do so we have to hold back and let the mainstream happen. If that means going back to non-resolute status then so be it. But like he said, if we don't want this to end it has to gain popularity with a younger audience again.
In all and all I guess all we can do is hope for the best and hopefully get more resolute/like things and great classics we grew up with. Even if they are in ROC form. Yo Joe!....Cobra! (whatever floats your boat!) Thats just my two cents. |
05-18-2009, 04:52 AM | #6 |
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I'm a huge fan of the Resolute mini series, the IDW comics as well as older G.I. Joe comics and I've had some interest in previous attempts to create new Joe animated series. However, I feel that there has been a marked lack of continuity in both the Joe Mythos and the Toy line. This creates confusion among the masses.
We have had the short lived CGI Ninja battles, the Valor vs. Venom one shots, the short lived sigma six animation, which I liked but I never had any idea if or when it was on t.v. and most recently, Resolute, which despite overwhelming reaction from both old fans and the uninitiated, most likely will not continue. Talk about a tease. Now what you appear to be proposing is to create several parallel media productions of RoC, Resolute, cartoons based on the comics and to top it all off DC style one shots spotlighting one or two characters. Transformers has always had several lines going, but each line was part of a clearly defined continuity: G1, Beast wars, the cybertronian wars trilogy (Armada,Energon,Cybertron) the prequel lines; War within, infiltration. Each line has its place in the mythos except for "Animated" which was targeted for kids and the kids don't realize that they are being short changed . What we need is to clearly define the Joe mythos, I would hate to see a kiddy joe cartoon, a comic based cartoon, one for the Movie line and another for disenfranchised 80's fans. Just give us Resolute the series and no one will get hurt. I see what you're saying, and I understand, but I think that there are two VERY different markets, that while Hasbro is capable of hitting both, the best (or at least easiest bet, IMHO) is to hit them both, one thing for adults, and one for kids. Perhaps a cartoon series for kids, and an adult-orientated movie series, such as more Resolute. A new thought though, is a live action series. Ultimately, it would be slightly impractical, though it could create major interest. It'd never work, but a, interesting concept to consider (though by far, one already contemplated by others) |
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05-18-2009, 04:53 AM | #7 |
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As kids to us it was great right? Well maybe its new kids turn and hopefully the mainstream will return. Hasbro has not forgotten about us old fans look at Resolute and the past three year toy lines. But it must survive to get more for us ol' timers. I guess to do so we have to hold back and let the mainstream happen. If that means going back to non-resolute status then so be it. But like he said, if we don't want this to end it has to gain popularity with a younger audience again.
In all and all I guess all we can do is hope for the best and hopefully get more resolute/like things and great classics we grew up with. Even if they are in ROC form. Yo Joe!....Cobra! (whatever floats your boat!) Thats just my two cents. Kids=$$$=More stuff=Happy fans! |
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05-18-2009, 05:08 AM | #8 |
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05-18-2009, 05:14 AM | #9 |
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But it must survive to get more for us ol' timers. I guess to do so we have to hold back and let the mainstream happen. If that means going back to non-resolute status then so be it. But like he said, if we don't want this to end it has to gain popularity with a younger audience again.
because of the nature of G.I. Joe, it has the advantage of easily adapting by simply upgrading to the latest armaments and scenarios. But my point is that as even kids, we liked Joe because it was more realistic and militaristic, you can capture a new audience of kids without going Dora the explorer neon Joe team. Quote:
Perhaps a cartoon series for kids, and an adult-orientated movie series, such as more Resolute.
A new thought though, is a live action series. Ultimately, it would be slightly impractical, though it could create major interest. It'd never work, but a, interesting concept to consider (though by far, one already contemplated by others) |
05-18-2009, 05:42 AM | #10 |
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I have to agree with you too. In order for the GI Joe line to continue we must have fresh ideals. I just wonder if Hasbro is thinking about that too?
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