Amerca's Elite full of sheet?

[cornbot]

i have every issue of americas elite....guess what IT SUCKS GARBAGE WRITING . just alot of dialogue. no action. lousy. there publishing event is a joke, bitten from civil war

[gijoevscobra4ever]

Originally Posted by nacho

I don't think you have to worry about where the story goes after WWIII because insiders have said that DDP has lost the license to IDW, and DDP has already stated that AE 36 is the end of the 25-year continuity of Joe comics as we know it. So arrest him, kill him, doesn't really matter because we're getting a reboot.

http://www.joereloaded.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3632

Personally, I have really enjoyed the last couple of years of AE. I think it's not been better since the invasion of Springfield and the first Cobra Civil War. I hope it ends with a massive throw-down since the consequences don't really have to be dealt with anyway. We need a satisfying end to this long-lived continuity.

I did hear about the reboot. Not into it. We'll see what happens.

they gotta do something to get people to get interested in the new story line they are using for the live action movies. "BUT" they tried this about two years ago with "GI JOE RELOADED" it was readable but it was not the same joe, all the characters were totally different, it did not have the "HEART" to back it up that the original continuity had. i can say this as someone who has purchased and read every joe comic ever produced, from the original marvel run to the special missions, to the devils due run and the two dd side books. i will buy and read a reboot, as long as it still has the heart and soul of the original characters, if we start seeing snake eyes talking all the time or such gibberish i might not be as interested in a reboot.

[nacho]

Originally Posted by Derek2783

I think thats everyone's biggest fear.

Seriously. The three main TF minis thusfar were supposed to be some big 3-part story. How does it end? (SPOILERS!!! for those that haven't read it and plan to waste their time and money) The good guys run away, leaving the humans and their autobot friends to fend for themselves while the bad guys fight each other and some random unexplained aliens. Huh?! Wait, that's the big payoff 18 issues and 147 one-shots in the making?!?! Now we're on to "All Hail Megetron"... where the good guys aren't around. How many times can the decepticons fight amongst themselves... who even needs autobots. ugh. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I would recommend the next TF mini-series be entitled:

"Super Self-Absorbed Robot Navel-Gazing"
"Another story with no actual plot or ending, but it's Transformers, so gimmie $4, chump!"
or simply
"Suckfest '08"

If this is the fate that also awaits Joe, I'm going to be a very sad panda.

[nacho]

Originally Posted by Golobulous

they gotta do something to get people to get interested in the new story line they are using for the live action movies. "BUT" they tried this about two years ago with "GI JOE RELOADED" it was readable but it was not the same joe, all the characters were totally different, it did not have the "HEART" to back it up that the original continuity had. i can say this as someone who has purchased and read every joe comic ever produced, from the original marvel run to the special missions, to the devils due run and the two dd side books. i will buy and read a reboot, as long as it still has the heart and soul of the original characters, if we start seeing snake eyes talking all the time or such gibberish i might not be as interested in a reboot.

Agreed. I've read every issue since '82, and reloaded was ok, but it lacked something, and yes, the characters were "off" somehow. It clearly didn't have that hamaverse vibe that makes all current Joe comics seem part of a larger, more special whole.

[cornbot]

you guys sound like SH$*TBOTS. lol gi joe vs tranformers art and story is the best out of ddp gi joe flint/hiatus. that and the new halloween nightdance.

[Omegawrath]

America's Elite has been a respectable run of comics for Joe. Nothing terribly special though (Except Caselli's artwork. WOW.)

I found it to be superior in storytelling to DDP's earlier stuff by a country mile, but far too slow-paced. Also a lot of the character interactions felt forced to me.

I could sit hee and go on forever about what was wrong with DDP's first forty-something issues. Let's just say that the first twenty or so read like a long fanfic and the second twenty had a decently talented writer who understood the characters writing with his hands tied by editorial mandates, mostly issued by the aforementioned fanfic writer.

DDP has been a mess as far as consistency is concerned. Even in America's Elite, they went fom a deep, character-driven story based around a central team to getting bogged down in cliches. The ambitious scope of WWIII has been appealing but the dialogue has been kind of painful in places.

All in all, the last eight or so years of GI Joe comics has seen a few bright spots and a lot of dismally boring and spastically inconsistent stuff. I'm glad to see the license passing from DDP. A lot of people are unhappy about this, as that's been their only real exposure to Joe comics and change is scary.

I personally LOVE what IDW has done with Transformers. I don't know if that formula would work for GI Joe, but I'd be thrilled to see.

Honestly, like a lot of the nostalgia hounds on here, I just want to see Larry Hama writing without constraints. If I could see that, I'd be happy no matter what format they were released in.

[nacho]

What part of IDW's Transformers have you enjoyed best, the lack of plot, the lack of resolution to the arc(s), the anime wannabe children, or the new issue #1 every six months?

we don't know that idw has the license this is not confirmed, Marvel could still be getting it. The transformers comic NEVER had the following the joe book has had anyway. it is a big property yes but not comic book wise. joe has almost 300 issues of continuity so it is kind of hard to just toss all that in the trash. if you do trash all that you had better be sure you have something special to replace it with and not just some flashy art and quick thrills.

[Omegawrath]

Originally Posted by nacho

What part of IDW's Transformers have you enjoyed best, the lack of plot, the lack of resolution to the arc(s), the anime wannabe children, or the new issue #1 every six months?

I've enjoyed the multiple, drawn out and interwoven plots, the widely-encompassing character driven stories and the fact that the human characters that were used to draw in a new generation of readers are mostly peripheral.

I love the fact that the art is done by artists who have both a sense of motion and the ability to tell a story.

I could care less if every issue said #1 on it.

I enjoy the consistency in the writing and the fact that the stories are written by an actual writer and not some talentless hack wannabe fanfic writers who recycle old plots and fill 30% of the books with old dialogue straight from the cartoon and start every 3rd balloon with "Ah yes..."

Call me old fashioned, but I like substance with my style. I also see the bigge picture in that with a cast of hundreds, a somewhat compartmentalized storytelling style helps to keep things from becoming wildly unintelligible for n00bs.