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11-14-2018, 11:33 PM | #1 |
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So I was bored at work today and to stay awake I did some research on the mask. so here is what I think could be a plausible history of heirloom.
so I looked up the definition of the word Generation and it says typically a generation is about 30 years. its generalized as the point where most people have kids, which is 30 years of age. now I think you could say its also family related. so at the point where someone has kids starts a new generation for that family, and that age could fluctuate depending on era. we know the mask was first donned during the Wars of the Three Kingdoms (1639-1651) in the year of 1641. and that was with destro iX and from there its been passed down over 20 generations to our destro xxiv. now here is where I think they are referring to his family's generations and not a cultural one because if you take the year 1641 and apply 30 years over 24 generations you get our destro getting his mask passed down in the year 2331. but if you do the math at 16 years of age you get 23.6 generations. so lets just call that 24. but that puts you around the year 2009 that he gets his mask. which we know is wrong. here is where you have to apply wacky comic book years that don't equal reality years lol because they never line up together. or you can manipulate the time line by saying maybe not every destro lived to 16 or had a first son before 16. way back in the old old days people were getting married at 13 and having kids then. so you could factor in a few of those to offset the time line but without having a full family tree on laird destro, no one knows. at 16 back then you could have been considered "a man" so the 16 years generation could hold merit. but you would have to be a man, get married, and have your first son before 17 for the 16 year generation to work evenly lol which could be possible since royalty then often had arranged marriages. but who knows its all fiction and I was really bored. but should any of that hold water we do know one thing, our destro has bucked tradition since he is clearly older then 16, not wed, and no kids that we know of in the traditional marvel cannon. so yeah, I was REALLY bored at work today! |
11-15-2018, 03:18 AM | #2 |
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all I know is, if you watch Supergirl atm, you can see that his mask works in live-action without needing any nanotech shite for making it move.
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11-15-2018, 03:43 AM | #3 |
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With your calculations on getting the mask in 2009 it was the year The Rise of Cobra was released. I know some only care about the Marvel lore, but when G.I. Joe came back in 2001 under Devils Due Destro did have a son, Alexander and later on hand a child with The Baroness.
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11-15-2018, 07:52 AM | #4 |
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I only refer to the marvel cannon. but that's just me. your welcome to fit the info into your joeverse however you like. that is kinda crazy how it ties into movie but then that would kill the whole family heirloom, passed down for 20 generations kinda thing
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11-15-2018, 08:29 PM | #5 |
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This^^
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11-18-2018, 03:29 PM | #6 |
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I thought the movie just mixed together all of Destro's origins from the 80's and the early 2000's Reloaded continuity and they didnt care much at the end result.
Destro never made much sense anyway. He uses an Italian family name that means "right-handed", but he's supposed to be Scottish. Even his organization is named after a Roman god of War. Why Destro Clan and not McCullen clan?! Destro is related to his cousin Darklon who comes from the fictional area of Darklonia, which was somewhere in the Balkans/ Trans-Carpatia region and a fictional place Hama called "Wolkekuckukkland" which sounds like it should be Germany. In the Action Force comic Destro was formerly Red Jackal,and was Eastern European descent, from Latvia. His face was badly injured by acid sprayed(instead of nano or burns) and wore the mask all via Ironblood(Cobra Commander). Destro's family line was based in Castle Destro - which was located in the Balkans and no relationship to Latvia. It was there since at least the time of the Crusades , where even then they were known for shifting alliances and selling weapons to both sides. On the Marvel-Sunbow his family castle was somewhere in Loch Lomond(so connects to the Marvel Comics series here). He never speaks with a Scottish accent. His ancestor was falsely accused of witchcraft and forced to wear the mask as punishment by what appeared to be Spanish Conquistadors. All his ancestors decided to wear a mask( not identical to the original but some kinda metal mask) as an act of defiance, retribution and revenge against law and order. Destro is more about bringing chaos to the world and fanatical about it. But later on Destro is shown to actually be a witch himself and leader of a pagan cult that worships a cthulhic god that dwells under his castle. Destro's castle also stood there for thousands of years,lol Last edited by CG82; 11-18-2018 at 03:34 PM.. |
11-18-2018, 03:35 PM | #7 |
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In the Action Force comic Destro was formerly Red Jackal,and was Eastern European descent, from Latvia. His face was badly injure and wore the mask via Ironblood(Cobra Commander).
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Destro's family line was based in Castle Destro - which was located in the Balkans and no relationship to Latvia. It was there since at least the time of the Crusades , where even then they were known for shifting alliances and selling weapons to both sides.
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11-18-2018, 03:37 PM | #8 |
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and as for the crack about the company name being the Roman war god.: it's an initialism: Military Armaments Research Syndicate. The fact it spells M.A.R.S. is probably intentional.
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11-18-2018, 03:53 PM | #9 |
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The earlier version of Red Jackal he was basically a glorified chauffeur and ex-Soviet army man that was recruited into Z-Force . There he was known as "Jackal" and once again was a driver.
The Red Shadows ambushed him and he was badly disfigured and injured in the crash. Ironblood ordered his body recovered to be operated upon by his specialists. There he became "Red Jackal". He waas given robotic and bionic parts and inhancements and the steel-plated head. He was basically a cyborg(sounds kinda like Wreakage from GI JOE Extreme or Darth Vader). So basically both versions are like nano and burned Rex and Destro from the ROC film. |
11-18-2018, 04:50 PM | #10 |
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I have a hard time figuring out just how secret his involvement with Cobra/other shady shit is supposed to be.... His code name is Destro, he lives in castle Destro in Scotland, and is part of the Clan Destro and also is the CEO of a defense contractor.... but nobody knows how to get to him? Except the time the Joes go to the UK and just jump into a Landie with a couple of SAS guys and drive to his house.
In my head “Destro” is simply the nom de guerre of James McCullen, a secret name passed down with the mask. He’d have to live in Castle McCullen and avoid wearing the mask in public or else MI-5 would be at his door in short order.
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